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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. If the keel doesn't cant why are they messing around with a complicated bent foil? Surely they don't need it for lateral resistance? Is that really just to get round the DSS patent?
  2. I've done it in real life. Regatta where 3 boats were a cut above the rest of the fleet. Finished 1,2,3 in every race. Day 1 we scored 2,2. One boat got 1,1 other 3,3. So we're second overall. Day 2 we scored 2 more second places. The other 2 reversed their order. So all three boats on 8 points. And we're 3rd on countback.
  3. My understanding is that you declare max pole length and if you have an articulating pole. The rating assumes that all your poles project the same amount. So if you rated for a 109 standard bowsprit then IRC would assume that your articulating pole was that length. Given that the only reason A-sail boats have great big bowsprits is to gain projection to get downwind, if you want to use S-sails you'd be far better off then using reaching A-sails tacked off a much smaller bowsprit. The speed difference reaching with a great big pole is minimal.
  4. I don't think this is the case. You will get a hit for being able to pole back, and be rated for your biggest kite.
  5. Checkmate took their boat to the US, IIRC. Wonder if they'll bring it back. #spenny. & not exactly a great move from an advertising/dealership PoV? Standard shocking marketing /PR from the raceboat industry. In the UK only J have ever been any good at that. Coupled with the "wait 10 years for a decent 30 foot OD to appear then 3 contenders arrive at once, basically ensuring that none of them can succeed." The only dealer with its shit anything like together is selling a boat just a little too "hardcore" with fabric forehatches, no heads and 4 bilge pumps for the current owners of 30 something caravans to jump in to, despite a lot of lobbying from their crews. In my opinion That C&C is close to ideal to attract cruiser racer owners who have found that they're not actually doing any cruising and want a proper race boat, but who baulk at the Farr 280's more interesting features. Instead they're all sitting tight and racing caravans. The HP30 class could at least allow any early adopters to go racing with similar boats.
  6. Even without paying straphangers it will easily exceed $50k a year if there is a fair number of races and some transport involved. Transport? Look at the regatta schedule at the top of the thread. All but one is in the Solent. The other is 150 miles away in Plymouth and I imagine most will sail there. This isn't another Melges 32 circuit. I agree, this is very interesting, and there are a few people currently sailing mid 30 foot caravans who are keeping a close eye on it. To my mind if it takes off that will be where the bulk of the fleet will come from, people going down in size but up in speed.
  7. So what's the story here? One of the hulls has a new keel? How much change, what rating etc....?
  8. It's a displacement cruiser racer, not a competitor to the C&C 30 etc. The one racing in the UK (which seems to have a Symmetrical kite) rates 1.023 under IRC, which is pretty pedestrian really, even the Corby 33s are up around 1.040, and the J/88s are coming in around 1.030. Pinhead main would seem to be in keeping with that.
  9. One racing in the Warsash Spring series, in IRC3. A 3rd and a 7th so far. I haven't been out yet, so no idea if it's being sailed well. One pic of it sailing on the warsash website. http://warsashspringseries.org.uk/2016/index.htm
  10. Great thread. Very interesting. I seemed to recall that the BT challenge boats, who as we all know used to go upwind in the Southern Ocean in anything up to 60 knots, had a specified technique for the Trysail. I asked one of our crew who did the last race, and he said that the specified technique was to use the boom. And in this footage, you can see that seems to be the case. Does the panel think that the relatively large size of the Challenge boats makes a difference? Would those who are advocating a no boom technique for smaller boats stick with that for the challenge boats?
  11. Thanks. Exactly my feelings on the above list. What was wrong with the Elan 340 ?... It looks nimble and carries plenty sail with a 2.1mt keel ? Anyone know where I would get an X-34 with a 70K budget?you wont . people hear cant read. wont get a decent 10R either To be fair, he's talking about the X34. I assumed his budget was elastic... Dunno what was wrong with the 340, but never seen one anything like competitive. Stretch the size a bit and you could probably get an Elan 37 for about that budget.
  12. X34 probably best all round IRC boat. 34.7 is a light wind specialist, interior not to everyone's taste. Dufour is a great, great fast cruiser. Never seen one competitive. Whether that is due to the owners or the boat...? 340 didn't work, 333 is a very, very good IRC boat Dehler 34rs (or 35, it's the same boat post resurrection) was always quick. J97 is always a good bet for IRC, but not to everyone's taste. Benetau 35 is a good bet. X332 for a good budget option Comet 33 if you can find one
  13. Yeah, I'm aware it's a more a "be on the line" option than a fully competitive option. Like I said, probably a pipe dream!
  14. Thanks guys. Interesting times!
  15. A curious person writes.... The Fast 40 class in the Solent next year looks like it's going to be pretty busy. What would be the cheapest way to get on the startline? I see Soto 40s (which I'm assuming would be eligible...?) for about £150k and coming with lots of sails to get you started. If you were trying to talk an owner into playing would that be a decent bet? Or is there something else out there that's not silly money but might be more competitive? Should stress, this is currently pipe dreaming on my part....