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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. That should be pinned as a classic post by jack! You may want to try the all Seatalk network with the breakout cable connected to the X5, and no NG stuff going to the X5 or Seatalk 2 port on the C80 before buying NG control head jack recommended. It is a much less expensive solution.
  2. What Jack says is a good check, but I think the C80 is too old and the S/W doesn't support for NMEA 2000 over the Seatalk 2 bus. I faced that problem with my old C70. If Jack's approach works, declare victory! Otherwise - try what I describe in my previous post. On your question of Seatalk and Seatalk NG from the same Raymarine connector, you could probably make a custom breakout cable that has both. You would need to get one of the Raymarine Setalk NG cables and cut off one end, then split the cable to break out the necessary signals. Since the Seatalk bus is already powered in your system, you would only need two wires for Seatalk from the breakout cable (Seatalk Signal and the return or shield).
  3. Jack - I was going by the Raymarine installation manual at this link. See page 27 where it shows the 5 pin Seatalk 2 connector. That is what I had on my old C70 also.
  4. just checking from the above post - with NG and no Seatalk, the 6002 gets speed, WP data, etc, but no wind. I just want to make sure you are getting some data from NG to the X5. If the answer is yes - then either the Raymarine documentation is wrong (wouldn't be the first time I've found that), or you have a faulty X5 computer. The other way to get Wind to the X5 is via the Seatalk bus. The i60 is one of the instruments that has both Seatalk and Seatalk NG on the same connector. The proprietary Raymarine Seatalk NG connector has an additional pin that includes the Seatalk signal in addition to the NMEA 2000 bus. Raymarine sells a Seatalk NG to 3pin Seatalk adapter cable. You would connect this cable from the i60 to the Seatalk network input that is attached to the X5, with no NG connection to the X5. That may be the best solution since you have the older C80 MFD in the loop. The C series classic MFD had Seatalk2 which was not NMEA 2000 certified and was a precursor to the Seatalk NG. I had problems with an old C70 and C90W trying to get the Seatalk2 to share data with the NMEA 2000 bus, and that was one of the many reasons I updated to the newer e series displays.
  5. For consideration on a future edition - add a NMEA 2000 port and do translation between NMEA 0183 sentences and and NMEA 2000 PGNs. Kind of like having an Actisense NGW-1 and Wifi all at once. I recognize the NMEA 2000 requires you to pay a King's ransom to get their specification but there is plenty of open source data on some conversions already done. Maybe build a library that people can add to for conversions they develop so they can be selectively added to the devices function.
  6. regarding the SeatlakNG to NMEA2000 cable question - yes! Raymaine sells them too (West Marine link).
  7. I have wind data from my Nexus system (RS485 bus) converted to NMEA2000 via a Garmin GND10. There is s Seatalk to SeatalkNG converter that sends all the NMEA2000 data (including wind, speed, GPS etc.) to a Raymarine S1G course computer over Seatalk. Since this works on my system, I would think the X5 course computer which is newer than the S1G would take the wind data via SeatalkNG.
  8. Can you make sure that the Seatalk connection is disconnected the X5 so only the ST6002 is connected to the X5 Course computer via Seatalk? I want to see what happens with just the SeatalkNG connection feeding system data to the course computer - look at the ST6002 and cycle through the various pages to make sure heading, depth, speed, etc. are being accepted over SeatalkNG. If that is not the case, then there is a problem with your SeatalkNG connection to the X5. If that works, more troubleshooting to do....
  9. Send me a PM - I may be able to point him in the right direction. I'm one of the 20 registered.
  10. You can cut off the end of a Seatalk NG cable and wire it directly
  11. That sounds like the same type as on my J/109 which uses a Sailtec Model -10 Custom-109.
  12. Get some G10 tube from McMaster Carr sized for your fastener diameter. You can drill through the rudder and epoxy the G10 tube cut so it is flush in place. Sand the ends flush after the epoxy cures. The G10 tube provides a great surface for compression so the fasteners can be tightened without concern about crushing the rudder core, and the epoxy seal prevents any water intrusion.
  13. WHK now that sale is over things I were looking at on-line are now back to normal pricing at around 10% more than MAP and with no reference to MAP in checkout anymore. Jack - For an example go to the search box and enter Raymarine or Standard Horizon. You'll see a list of items that all have "Minimum Advertised Pricing". Those would all be in the agreement. You need to add to cart to see the price that Defender will charge you. That is what I meant in my original post. Anything they offer that is covered by an agreement would display in that fashion.
  14. Soley - that is an awesome system and layout. The only recommended addition to the system for a boat that size is connection of the entertainment system so you can control it from any of the Zeus displays. Separating the NMEA 2000 bus between the "Nav/Tactical" and the "Housekeeping" bus is a smart move.
  15. I used a PYI flexible coupling on my J/30 with a Yanmar 2GM and it worked pretty well. I needed to shorten the shaft about 3/4". Don't go too soft on the mounts or you'll find that it actually shakes more and bottoms out. I made that mistake and went back to the recommended mounts that worked better.