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  1. Barn Find Cal 40

    White Squall, seen around here often. It looks even better in person. I am not being sarcastic, for some reason the flat top design works well on this long narrow boat.
  2. I was wondering the same thing as CBS. It seems it flipped because of multiple errors in fit out, ballast and launching, and it has been mentioned that the basic hull design is OK. Stripping out the interior wood and electrical would be needed, but it would not require special skills. Getting the engine out and new back in depends on how the ship is designed, but once done the new owner would be ahead of starting with nothing. A used Nordhavn in this size range is 3-6 million. The question for those of you with big boat knowledge is could you pick flipper up for yard fees, gut and rebuild, and come in under that range? I know it will never be as good as a Nordhaven, but it would be essentially a new boat.
  3. Pilothouse For Puget Sound, $40K Or Less

    Sorry J I missed your earlier post on theCooper, your points are well taken. If you dont find a pilot house in your price and size range dont discount a good standard boat with a well made dodger and an underdeck autopilot and remote. Mine has a forced air heater with vents into the storage areas to dry out the wet gear, some sailors have even added a vent low in the cockpit forward to keep your feet warm. Ish, my wife and I once rode our bikes 120 miles in the rain with gear like you describe, we were too poor for gortex and even covered our heads in shower caps under our helmets and stuck our feet in plastic bags in our shoes. The smell after 9 hours would have gagged maggots.
  4. Pilothouse For Puget Sound, $40K Or Less

    The Rendezvous was pretty low key but does get mentioned here and on the Perry website, It seems like you are checking CL often, but in case you missed it, https://seattle.craigslist.org/kit/boa/d/pilot-house-sailboat-with/6351061084.html. The motor is brand new and the saildrive looks to be only 4 years old. With instal it probably cost more than 1/2 the asking price. I have the same motor in my boat, it might be a little underpowered but a sea trial would sort that out.
  5. Pilothouse For Puget Sound, $40K Or Less

    The islander looks a little rough so you might get it for less than 28k. I would want to know why all the port frames are painted blue, it would be a big job to replace them if they are going bad. As an aside you can go to the Perry Rendezvous with a non Perry boat. We did this year and had fun despite our second class status.
  6. Hard vs soft dinghy

    As someone who has gunked around the San Juans in both a hard dingy (the same as Olaf's, actually the very same one since I sold it to him and some days want it back) and an inflatable (an Avon like Ajax's, but not the same one) I can say both work fine. For the orignal poster's use I would go with the hard. It sounds like it sits for long periods of time so UV and other abuses will take a toll on an inflatable, even the more expensive hypalon types. To get around this you could pump and deploy the inflatable every time, but the added hassle may not be worth it. I now have only the Avon but part of the appeal is the ability to store it for long passages, rather than tow when he weather gets bad and current acts up. I am too lazy to store a hard dink on deck. I do have a 35 year old 2hp Evinrude that works well enough to bring it on cruises, but not enough to trust it further than I can row. I would get a better motor but I can carry the old 2 cycle in one hand while I climb into the Avon from the mother ship. Any gas motor that you have to store on the boat or dock for long periods while you are away is a bad idea, better to row a hard dink. If you go with an inflatable heed Ajax'a advice and look for a good used avon redcrest. They last much longer than a PVC boat and their shape is more space efficient. They pack small too. Now that another "whats the best dingy" discusion is winding down I have some other questions. I have a boat with a tiller that I would like to convert to a wheel, and another with a wheel that might be better with a tiller, what should I do? I also need to buy six anchors, what's the best one? Halle Berry or Gwyneth Paltrow? we need to know.
  7. RM69 Style Tank for Jabsco Head

    No clue, try these guys, http://www.marinesan.com/default.asp
  8. For now I am happy with my conventional sloop, but as I get older the appeal for a deck salon will increase. The added benefit of protection from weather in PNW is obvious, and I really like the idea of the main interior space having lots of light and outward visibility while seated. The problem is I have not seen any in the 35 ft range that look good. A serius ds 350 is about the best, but I agree with Semi that Buffet's is not bad and no better or worse than a Moody.
  9. Good, Cheapish Dacron Sails?

    I was looking for sails on my last boat about the same size as yours a few years ago. After looking at the budget options I decided to get a quote form the local loft. They went far beyond measuring the luff and foot, but also looked at jib car placement, pulpits and lifelines and asked lots of questions about how I used the boat. Did I ever want to race, what were my light air expectations, how important was leeward visability under the 130 jib? I decided to pay more for the local loft, and ended up with a sail that was perfect from day one. If the budget is super tight or you do not plan to keep the boat more than a few years go cheep, otherwise the added cost for a local loft is worth it,
  10. What is this masty little beamer?

    A solid very well made boat with lots of blue water capability. A friend has one and I was surprised to find a very workable interior with standing headroom and an enclosed head.
  11. Making the perfect cockpit table - or not

    We use a Helinox camp taple on our J109. SInce the mainsheet/traveler set up precludes any mounted table on the binnacle for use underway we went for a minimal approach.
  12. My newest project

    Is that blue boat behind you the famous 3 story flipper? If so you might be tempting fate, although your design karma should keep you out of trouble.
  13. Cruising with 2 families: space for 9?

    How about 2 modest boats rather than 1 big one. Keep what you have and get another. There are more budget options in the 35-45 range. Yes you would have twice as many systems to keep up, but also full redundancy. In an emergency all of you could utilize one boat. It also allows the option of separation if some of you start to not like each other so much. Worse case scenario, teach the oldest girl to sail and put them all on one one boat, kind of a female Lord of the Flies approach.
  14. My newest project

    if you can live without the retracting keel, you have pretty much described a J100, I know it is a sloop with an inboard, but you could roll with that ok.
  15. My newest project

    I took this on the way home. A good time was had by all, and the band really is the highlight of the weekend. The editor will not let me delete the double image, but she is so good looking two are needed anyway.