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  1. VOR 2017-18

    Scally with 8, ttop with 10 and the rest with 9. Brave choice by scally...
  2. VOR 2017-18

    Great to see BT in the race. Not a brand name but in some ways the most successful Brit on the French scene. Really hoping ttop go well
  3. VOR 2017-18

    I worked on a project for Akzo. It was 3.5 times over budget and years late. I think the new ceo might be particularly sensitive to cost overruns
  4. VOR 2017-18

    Still only 4 teams Are there some waiting in the wings I would hate to see this race disappear
  5. VOR 2017-18

    Back to the race Who are the missing teams?
  6. I have a transom hung rudder which is lifted out of the water when not sailing so no need to anti foul. What to coat it with? I guess I need to protect the wood. My default would be to slap on some domestic gloss paint but this is probably not the answer. The boat is 23ft - hunter sonatta - the rudder is about 6ft tall with 4ft in the water. It is currently varnished above the water line with some form of paint/ coating below the water line. It needs repair as the coating is damaged and there is water ingress into the wood. I have started to strip it back but curious as to what replace it with. I am going to prep my spare rudder which is already stripped back to bare wood and nice and dry. I will then finish stripping the other rudder back to wood to let it dry out. The suggested solution needs to be a quick process as i go racing in 3 weeks. Thanks
  7. Vendee Globe 2016?

    I was disappointed in the way seb Josse pulled the pin. I don't know how significant the damage was but he seemed to pull the plug as soon as he felt he was not going to be competitive. Alex thomson carried on with similar damage? Vincent riou showed what a legend he is. Mike
  8. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Listening to radio 4 in the car on the way to work this morning. Live interview with conrad colman. He sounded very together. He thinks his eta is Friday afternoon. Not sure how you maintain energy levels on 700 calories per day.
  9. Jules Verne Trophy 2016

    Suppose there would have been another multihull capable of sailing 25% faster in all wind conditions than IdecSport. I think that if it would have started 6 hours after Idec, it would have finished no more than 6 hours earlier, making at most 12 hours faster circumnavigation. In real life it could not have predicted the weather all around the globe in advance, and would not have picked that starting time. Had it started at the same time, it would have been more than 1.5 days in ahead at Cap Horn, and lost almost all of that advantage to Idec during the Atlantic. It would have finished in the same weather as Idec only a few hours ahead at most, because there was a huge light wind area almost across the whole NorthAtlantic a day before.That is the effect of weather patterns. The biggest improvements in individual legs if sailed at the same time would have been down the Atlantic or from NewZealand to Cap Horn, both more than a day. However it would not be logically possible to sail both legs at the same time than Idec, while also sailing at faster average speeds. What is necessary to break the record would be any of these: - Both a faster boat and equally lucky weather (less than 5% probability) or - significantly (> 33%) faster boat and almost as lucky weather (max 25 % probability) - same boat performance and better luck with weather (less than 0.5 % probability) Sailing a shorter distance down south without hitting anything might be possible in some weather conditions, but only if technology advances to detect Ice and sealife. That would increase the probabilities for suitable weather required to break the record. At this point only a faster boat will not be enough, unless it would be more than 50% faster in all wind conditions, and I don't think that is possible any time soon. Also having a faster top speed due to fully foiling would not have made any significant difference for the new IDEC record time. It would only have caused sailing in to less wind in the southern ocean between low pressure systems and having the same speed as Idec had in a better place. A better boat needs also to be faster in lighter wind conditions. That would allow hopping from current low to the previous one even then the current one doesn't slow down like happened south of NZ for Idec allowing it to do just that. 33% improvement is required for that kind of hopping. I would love to see your analysis to support your probability numbers. They are presented in a factual manner so I am assuming there is hard data to support them?
  10. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Good effort and shows well after the previous two early dnf's. My feeling is that poor boat prep before the start let him down.
  11. Vendee Globe 2016?

    2? BP to Louis and Gitana to Boris. Any others? Safran I wouldn't really expect to be sold. Virbac probably would be sold eventually, although it seems to clearly be the slowest of the foilers. I think Hugo boss potentially reduces the value of these foilers. It points to the opportunity for a new design to go further along the hb route and away from the max full bow of bp8 etc al. Anyone going for a new build may have a significant advantage over these boats.
  12. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Looks like both are going really hard. Impressive to think that both of them could break the 24hr record at the end of the race. there has to be performance degradation at the end of a round the world trip. Great race!
  13. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Bit tricky to hove to without a mast.
  14. Vendee Globe 2016?

    In light conditions will AT be quicker than ALC on port? At low speeds the foils are just drag
  15. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Still going very slowly. Not good