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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. AC36 - The Venue

    and the lifestyle blockers, moaning about the cows getting milked at 5:00 am, noisily farm equipment, slow tractors on the rural roads etc.
  2. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Does anyone have Blackjack's AIS number I would like to track them back to Brisbane thanks
  3. Sydney to Hobart 2017

  4. SOLAS Big Boat Challenge

    Must be the bowman.
  5. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Yeap I just dropped $20 @ $7 odds.
  6. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    CYC says No to Blink Shaw 12 http://blinksail.blogspot.co.nz/Sadly we've had our entry to the S2H denied. After months of work and preparation, the bit that got us stuck was the clause of: - an ORCi stability index of 115 for the configuration in which the boat proposes to race; or - International Standard ISO12217-2 Design Category A except that the STIX Number shall be increased to a minimum of 35.We knew we could have got the ISO certificate at the boat launch in 2013 but didn't think we'd need it and thought we could get it later. We had a STIX Number of 36.697 so we thought: no problem. We didn't know about the ORCi side, but wanted to get an ORCi rating as another handicap to compete on. So we got the boat measured, and the ORCi stability index came out too low for the S2H, at just under 110. No problem, we thought, we just need to get the ISO12217 and we have the STIX (Stability Index) well in excess of the requirement. But, then we heard from CYCA who said that even with the ISO certificate and the STIX in excess of the requirements, they would not accept our entry. We thought of arguing this lack of understanding of what "or" means, but we figured we'd do that after getting the ISO...We sent off two emails: one to get the ISO done formally, and another to ask the ORC people what we had to do to get a better number. Neither replied immediately ...So we thought ... how do we get up to a better ORCi number...? Add weight to the keel. So on the day we were supposed to leave for Sydney we found out from Rob that the boat was engineered for a keel that was 60kg heavier, so we could do that minimal adverse effects on performance, except for VMG running and light air performance. Nobody could tell us at that time whether that would be OK, so we lifted the boat, stripped the keel to bare lead, and set about adding 60kg. At about that point we heard from the ORCi guru we'd asked for help ... he said we would need to add __300kg__ to the keel, to nearly get to 115... ! Yikes, no way that can, or should, happen. Not only would the rig, keel structures, etc etc, pretty much the whole boat need to be re-engineered, it would no longer be a fast boat. Then the really bad news. The ISO certificate criteria had changed, it now ignores the buoyancy of the cabin top and other structures above the deck. Now we fell just short of getting that too. He estimated that the 60 *might* have done it, but wasn't sure. That, the very limited time available, plus the CYCA saying that even if we did get the ISO that they would decline our entry (arguable, sure, but sailing 1200nm to Sydney to then argue and possibly lose that argument doesn't sound like a good bet). We heard that Groupama the Volvo 70 won the Volvo Ocean Race, but the same boat wasn't able to race in S2H without adding weight to the keel. We suspect that the ORCi SI rule set by CYCA could do with some modernisation, like their insistence on SSBs.Just for added interest, we heard via another participant in the S2H that, with a few weeks to go that NZ Safety at Sea certs would no longer be acceptable. With no option to do a course in Australia in time, and a requirement that half of the crew had a valid certificate. That's a little, er, underarm too. Tony at 19:34Share
  7. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    So how is the line up going be for tomorrow's Bird Island race?
  8. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    So what happened to WO11 and WO10?
  9. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    Any updates or a tracker on the Cabbage Island race?
  10. Joke

    Is this the future of our privacy???? The Telephone is dialled for Gordon's Pizza --------- Brrrrrrr Brrrrrr Brrrrrrr Brrrrrrr “Hello, - is this Gordon's Pizza?” “No, sir - it's Google’s Pizza.” “I must have dialled a wrong number. Sorry.” “No, sir, this is the correct number. Google bought Gordon's Pizza last month.” “Oh! Okay then - I would like to order a pizza.” “Do you want your usual, sir?” “My usual? You know me?” “According to our caller ID data sheet, the last 12 times you called you ordered an extra-large pizza with three kinds of cheese, sausage, pepperoni, mushrooms and meatballs on a thick crust.* “Right! That's just what I want.” “May I suggest that this time you order a pizza with ricotta, arugula, sun-dried tomatoes and olives on a whole wheat, gluten-free, thin crust?” “What? I detest vegetables!” “Your cholesterol is not good, sir.” “How the hell do you know that?” “Well, we cross-referenced your home phone number with your medical records. We have the result of your blood tests for the last 7 years.” “Okay, okay – but I don’t want your awful vegetable pizza - I already take medication for my cholesterol.” “Excuse me, sir, but you have not taken your medication regularly. According to our database, you only purchased a box of 30 cholesterol tablets once, at Drugsale Network, 4 months ago.” “I bought more from another drugstore.” “That doesn't show on your credit card statement.” “I paid in cash.” “But you did not withdraw enough cash, according to your bank statement.” “I have other sources of cash.” “That doesn't show on your last tax return unless you bought them using an undeclared income source, which is against the law.” “WHAT THE HELL? ! ! ! !” “I'm sorry, sir, we use such information only with the sole intention of helping you.” “Enough! I'm sick to death of Google, Facebook, Snapchat, Instagram, Twitter, WhatsApp and all the others!! I'm going to an island without the Internet, without cable TV – someplace where there is no cell phone service and no one to spy on me!!” “I understand, sir. But do you know that you need to renew your passport first? It expired 6 weeks ago.”
  11. Sydney to Hobart 2017

    S2H becomes like the Transpac sailing westward, not as cold.
  12. Black Jack

    Was there racing yesterday (Thursday) as there are no results, I know Wednesday was a lay day?
  13. Black Jack

    Another victory for BK over WO in race 3
  14. AC36 Auckland NZ

    My screen saver