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  1. I have a 30-ft dry sailed, ULDB, daysailor / racer in NorCal that now I want to store in the water. It has spent its life on a trailer, but for usage reasons, I want to berth it. I went to the yard to get a quote on an epoxy barrier coat and bottom job. The yard owner first asked me when the hull was built-- late 80's to my knowledge-- at which point he said that I shouldn't put on a barrier coat to prevent blistering. His reasoning was that the hull was probably partially wet already, and that putting on a barrier coat would just lock moisture inside, and then there would be "barrier-coat blisters" that would have to be removed the next time the boat was hauled. He said with dry-sailed boats of that vintage he never puts epoxy barrier coats on them because of the threat of barrier coat blisters. He recommends sanding the existing gelcoat to get some tooth, then painting on the bottom paint of my choice (his was Micron 66), then put it in the water. I'm skeptical of that advice... I responded that I really wanted a barrier coat to protect the balsa core... OK, he said, 3 coats of expoxy. Hmmm.... I thought barrier coats were more like 5 - 6 coats. I want to do this right, and while money is important, doing the job correctly for the long-term is more important. What is your advice?
  2. fixed carbon bowsprit

    Roleur: Still very much liking your solution... now that I understand how much compression your bowsprit needs to handle (since the bobstay is attached directly to the tackline), how do you connect the rear of the pole to the deck? From the pictures it looks like you have a Selden ring in the front and another Selden ring in the back. How do you affix the back of the pole to the rear, allowing it to retract when desired but not retract under the high compression loads. On Selden's website they have a rear attachment to a single deck padeye... is this what you are using or something more substantial?
  3. fixed carbon bowsprit

    Roleur: I really like your solution-- am considering doing the same to my 30' custom boat. One question... how does the bowsprit pole retract and not interfere with the front hatch?