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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. So who bought it? Where is it headed?
  2. If anyone really needs it, I can give the contact information of the Harbor Master. I have his card. But the basic contact information for the harbor is on the abandon notice.
  3. I posted the pictures after I got home from vacation. The french magazine just asked me for permission to use the photos a couple hours ago. I suspect they are a bit behind in the story. I also suspect I was used by the Harbor Master just to gain publicity and get things moving. I wonder how much of his story was true? Maybe he was in contact with owners all along and spun the story to get things moving. I don't know. There is some big fishing tournament based out of the harbor coming up in a short time, like weeks. The boat is parked at the weigh in station and really doesn't have another location to go to. That is the deadline to get it out of there.
  4. If it was sold back for back fees, it must have been with the agreement to get it out of the way. The guy was adamant that he wanted it gone. Where will it go?
  5. So I was visiting Hawaii on vacation and came across Hydroptere after a tourist booze cruise. Since I followed this boat for years I decided to come back when I was sober and take some pictures. What I found was an Abandoned Vessel notice. The boat was obviously not in use and not being kept up. After I took pictures I found the Harbor Master and he told me the story from his perspective. The boat arrived around TransPac and had no planned berth. They were denied by many harbors including this one. But after begging and promising to be out at the next record attempt, they are granted permission. The crew docked, tied up, and left. That was the last contact the Harbor Master ever had with anyone involved in the boat. No money ever showed up and all attempts to contact the owner(s) went unanswered. He even tried calling the sponsors who refused to have anything more to do with the boat. So the Abandoned Vessel notice went up months ago. The rigger and crane are scheduled to pull the boat, dismantle it and place all the parts on the hard, out of the way of upcoming events. Abandoned vessels cannot be sold as boats because there is no title. However the harbor has the right to dismantle the boat and sell it for parts and scrap the rest. This is the plan. He hopes to recover his legal, rigger, crane, back storage, etc. by selling the hydraulics and mast. Everything else is probably too unique to be of value. The crane is scheduled. This should happen soon. So I asked how much he was hoping to get, how much he would take if someone walked up to him today with cash? If someone walked up with $20,000 today the boat and all its legal issues would be theirs as long as it left the harbor. Is this how boats die? It's so sad.