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  1. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I don't get it. If you look at the date stamp of the latest news item about the collision, it looks like they wrote that article many hours ago, yet only posted it now.
  2. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Just posted.... The Volvo Ocean Race is deeply saddened to inform that the collision between Vestas 11th Hour Racing, a team competing in the Volvo Ocean Race 2017-18, and a fishing vessel has resulted in a fatality of a crew member of the fishing vessel. On behalf of the Volvo Ocean Race and Vestas 11th Hour Racing, we offer our deepest condolences to the loved ones of the deceased. The incident occurred approximately 30 miles from the finish of Leg 4, outside of Hong Kong waters. Race Control at Volvo Ocean Race headquarters was informed of the collision by the team moments after it happened at approximately 17:23 UTC on Friday January 19, 2018 (01:23 local time on Saturday morning). The Vestas 11th Hour Racing team, none of whom were injured in the collision, issued a Mayday distress call on behalf of the other vessel, alerting the Hong Kong Marine Rescue Coordination Centre (HKMRCC) and undertook a search and rescue mission. HKMRCC informed Race Control that a commercial vessel in the area was able to rescue nine of the crew and that a tenth crew member was taken by helicopter to hospital. HKMRCC has since confirmed the death of the air-lifted crew member. Volvo Ocean Race and Vestas 11th Hour Racing are now focused on providing all support necessary for those affected by this incident. All involved organisations are co-operating with the authorities and are fully supporting the ongoing investigation.
  3. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I am sure that they will be questioned but whether it is occurring now or not is anybody's guess. Volvo and the other players involved must be freaking out. I hope they are open and honest and not so stupid to lawyer up. I think that could backfire on them. It is important to have the local authorities and media on your side.
  4. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    It is more than 4 /2 hours since their last news report. If you go by their site, Vestas is still motoring ashore yet they have been tied up for hours. Their twitter and race blog is no better. All it shows is boats finishing with no mention of anything to do with Vestas. The individual boat blogs are blocked out.
  5. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I understand but it has been hours since the event occurred and it has already been reported several places elsewhere. They should have given more info hours ago.
  6. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    VOR and Volvo aren't helping themselves any and there would be a lot less speculation if there wasn't this media blackout. Only showing smiling finishers while ignoring a tragedy is a piss poor response.
  7. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Having sailed into it myself, I thought it was crazy to race in to a port like Cochin (Kochi) in the 2008/2009 race. To go in at such high speed seemed wreckless to me and I figured it was a miracle nobody got into a collision that year. Unless you have gone in or out of an area like that, you don't understand how congested and crazy it can be, especially on a day when the small fishing boats are trying to get back to market. AIS is useless since most of the small boats don't use it. Radar is great but a small wooden boat in waves may be very hard to pick up. It could be that speeds of 20 knots going into Hong Kong is simply too fast to see the small, poorly lit and non AIS boats in the area. If you are in a restricted or dangerous area with known navigation hazards, you must take all precautions and being in a race doesn't mean a thing. It is possible that Vestas could be deemed to be at fault here, even if the boat they hit was not being operated properly. I think this could get very messy in the courts. What a tragedy for everybody.....
  8. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    A similar thing happened to Earthrace on it's round the world record attempt off Guatemala. If I remember right, it tooks weeks to sort out in the courts. http://www.stuff.co.nz/sunday-star-times/features/29123/I-think-hes-dead
  9. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    It may be OK on the boats but I have found that the AIS is unreliable online. I went to marinetraffic.com when Skallywag was finishing and couldn't see it or any of the other boats approaching Hong Kong. It was the same case when they came into Melbourne. Some of the boats showed up, and some didn't.
  10. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    They are live again now.
  11. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Great, another moron posting from his mommies basement.
  12. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I am not sure what is more frustrating....waiting for them to come on live again with some real news or reading the blind speculation here. I don't normally go on the sailinganarchy forums. Are they normally this bad?
  13. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Not according to my screen. It is a mistake to assume that the update rate of the positions on the tracker is the same as on the boat.
  14. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    A+++
  15. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Dongfeng is only about 8 miles from the finish. Hopefully they go back live soon and we get some more news.