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  1. Just about to finish my first summer on hull 004. Im still learning and wish I had another couple months but I'm very happy with the decision to buy. I'm 48. The rest of my crew are all older than me. Two in their mid fifties. The boat has been no problem for us. we've all commented that it is less intimidating than some of the bigger boats I've owned. Havent been out in a real blow mind you, but enough to get up on plane a couple races. Sail are all smaller than we are used to. No winches to grind on. Hoists and douses have been easy for the most part. I was a bit worried about yanking on a main sheet all race long since I have one bum shoulder and one bad elbow. But again has not been an issue. So Id say if you are in decent shape go for it. Its a fun boat.
  2. Ok next issue. Previous owner has balls on any line that attaches to a sail. So HAlyards, TAck line, outhaul, etc. Ie make a loop in the line . Pass it through the grommet or loop on sail, Ball through the loop and cinch it up. works great. Except. Under tension the loop squeezes through the loops on the sail and it takes great effort to get it undone. Like twenty minutes one night. Crew doesnt want to mess with it anymore. So any reason why I wouldnt cut them off and put shackles on? Whats everyone else using? Getting the hang of racing this boat and having a ball. Moving up in the standings slowly. Finally got up on plane last week. Good thrill.
  3. Quick and simple question. The MAin sail has one sail slug at the bottom edge of the sail. Do people just use a small line to tie that sail slug down to the gooseneck? I have had it come out of the track when hoisting the sail. No problem putting it back in but seems like it should be tied down. Anyway thats what Ive done. whats everyone else do?
  4. If you haven't already get Melges to send you the manual. It was a good start for me when it came to rigging the boat. I'm the same as you. New to the Melges 24 and sport boats in general this year. Only difference is I did a bottom job and left mine in the water. So I have only launched once. It seemed simple. I have rigged the boat a couple of times. Once for launch and once in my yard for a trial. I recommend that. Have at least 3 or 4 people to help you that first time until you get the process down to a science. Any questions about details pm me.
  5. Could you all who are in the know tell me what I have for sails for this boat. Besides my practices sails I have two North jibs. They are labelled : J-Zero -C. The other J-7. What's the difference. Wanted to try one or both out this week.
  6. So when are most tightening the back stay? I understand having it on downwind in a big breeze to prevent a catastrophe but I would of thought I needed it up wind as well. Without it I seem to have a lot of sag in the forestay / jib luff. A previous post suggested no backstay up wind. Whats everyone else doing?
  7. New boat didn't come with any instruments but a Velocotek Puck. So now countdown timer to use for the starts. Yeah I know we can just use our wrist watches but I seem to be the only one of my crew who brings a watch with a timer. I'd like to have a bigger timer I can Velcro somewhere on the boat. Any name make and models you've seen out there? One of my crew was going to bring an old cell phone and use the timer on it. Not a bad idea. But what else?
  8. Im thinking now I have Vang that doesnt belong on the boat. My vang has an internal spring. No cyclinder. So did Melges ever use such a vang or did the previous owner just put a generic vang on that fit. Anyone have a picture of theirs?
  9. Have some Boom vang questions. Trying to figure out if mine is worn out. Wondering how much adjustment or travel the vang has. Mine doesn't seem to have much. I've been out four times so far. All four times in wind under 12 knots but haven't once touched the vang. When do you experienced Melges 24 sailors make Vang adjustments. Any simple way I can tell if my vang is fully functional? I'd like to know when going down wind in a blow I can release the vang to dump some air.
  10. Got one for $20,000 Canadian this winter. That converts to under $15,000 US right now. Its old but in decent shape with decent sails. Is that what you are looking for? Where are you? Another one I know of in Boston that might go for cheap.
  11. I bought hull 004 from Toronto. Old boat but in good shape. Has newish sails and rigging. Previous owner had some funny things rigged up. I've discovered a missing padeye or something on the starboard side of the mast. Couldn't understand why I couldn't figure how the Cunningham was rigged. Also the fine tune of the Main halyard has me stumped. There is something missing at the bottom end of the mast support that the fine tune hooks to. Again not sure how the previous owner had it rigged. I'll figure something out.
  12. Bottom job done. Turned out pretty well. Time will tell if I got the water line right. Anyway next questions. Getting close to putting the mast up in my yard. The rigging on the mast post has me a bit perplexed. On the port side is a stainless contraption that the jib halyard hooks to? Not sure I am understanding the point of the jib halyard being the fore stay. So what is the point? Makes changing the jib a big job doesn't it? Next. How is the Main halyard run? And what else is rigged on the starboard side of the mast post? Manual doesn't show it clearly. And again I feel the previous owner had some funny rigging there.Thanks agin. 2-3 weeks til launch.
  13. Next question: How can I find the water line for the boat? Without putting it in the water. Yes I am planning on barrier coats and bottom paint. And yes I have considered all the pros and cons of doing so.
  14. So I have the Manual. That's what alerted me to the different set up. The back stay is new already. Its the flicker that looks out of place. Longer than the normal ones I think. So I think he ran it right to the tip of the mast to compensate. In fact , in doing so, it looks like he attached a wind vane to it as well since he covered up all available space for the wind vane. Maybe its the flicker I need to replace. The top of the back stay runs through a tiny little block attached to the back end of the flicker before attaching to the pin on the under side of the mast crane. This sound right?
  15. Thought Id start a new Melges thread so I can ask questions as I get to them. I am finding that the previous owner had his own unique way of rigging this boat. I was able to download a manual from Melges and clearly I have some differences in set up. So first question. The back stay set up. I have a fibreglass batten with what i am assuming is an Amsteel line. How and where does the batten attach to the mast? The manual shows it connects with two screws to the aft half of the mast crane. But it looks like mine is attached to the mast crane AND the top of the mast. And what kind of screws are used? This one had three different screws and two of them were wood screws? Are they not threaded holes? The one machine screw I found doesn't seem to fit any of the three holes I found. The pin on the under side of the crane aft does not seem to be used with this soft back stay. That likely? All for now.