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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. how to ruin racing, part 2

    While they have complied with the RRS by stating the reason is the reason valid? By not calling up the party for a hearing or a misbehaviour charge before the relevant committee, how does a party know they have breeched the misconduct? Some YC have very strange and archaic rules. If you are not bought before the committee how do you know you have breeched the rules? If this is not challenged where does it stop? If the OA doesn't want you to attend (maybe your boat is better than the club commodores) they just site 'breeched the misconduct of the club. Then refuse your entry. If at the time you were charged with misconduct (drinking beer from a can instead of glass) then you at least you can defend yourself at a hearing. Is it within the rules? yes. Is it correct not bringing you before the committee to explain your actions? no.
  2. Malcolm Page is a one of the best sailors in the 470 in the modern era. He is also one of the nicest people you would ever wish to meet. Hope he doesn't get burnt by everyone expecting him to walk into the office on Monday and have the US winning world championships by the week end. The whole US Olympic structure needs to overhauled. It takes time to change the whole system. When looking at Olympic history in Australia http://www.sailing.org.au/performance/olympic/history/ there are periods of no medals. 2004 no medals after a successful 2000. Malcolm Page was there during the successful period, so hopefully for the US he can build a program that can produce champions in the future. Can he do it one quad, I would doubt it. Can he have success in the second quad, I think he can. It takes and you need to give him time.
  3. Yes, thanks it was a good interview.
  4. It is a very good interview and gives a great insight to PH. A couple of things: There was discussion about the youth worlds in Malaysia. PH conveniently forgot the Fiona Kidd, Canada, was chair of the youth world sub-scommitte that approved the youth worlds in Malaysia. She was also on the Events Committee which rubber stamped it. And I think she was on Council representing the Woman that rubber stamped it. Kidd and Henderson are friends. So when people say ISAF did this perhaps it should be looked at who actually gave the recommendation. Henderson saying international classes should get vote for president is possibly a good idea. Classes think beyond their borders unlike the MNA. When he was president for 10 years why didn't Henderson make the submission then? It is never going to happen as the MNAs will never give up their control. Still the most forward thinking of the candidates.
  5. Foiling Nacra 17

    By the looks of it the Hobie 16 still runs youth youth world championships at their Hobie 16 worlds. The Wave is at the Americas Cup http://www.hobiecat.com/blog/americas-cup-endeavour-programme,432/?cache=none
  6. World Sailing says FU to AUS and NZL

    How about organising some events that people actually want to travel to? The sailors have not been attending the event. There is no real requirement to attend the event. So either you get rid of the event, or make it requirement or an important reason for sailors from the northern hemisphere to attend. The easier option was chosen.
  7. ISAF World Sailing Corruption Website

    Do you seriously expect me to publish her name on this forum? If it is a 'her' that would narrow it down to the two ISAF/WS women VP or two women ISAF/WS secretaries who would attend an ISAF/WS Executive meeting. All the ISAF/WS media people are now male. Those people are telling you what happened in a closed meeting. Sorry you are going to have to do better than that to convince anybody.
  8. ISAF World Sailing Corruption Website

    What evidence do you have of this statement: "Hunt has blacklisted all contact with media organisations that are not favorable to his cause"? At a crisis meeting with the Executive last week In Southampton the issue of public relations was discussed. The agreed strategy for the most part included the following: - As a priority defend all current legal action rigorously no matter what the cost. An upheld case will lead to scores of copy cat cases. - Minimize all contact with media organizations seeking to damage World Sailing. Especially those that are clearly bringing the sport of sailing into disrepute. Maintain close contact with media organizations that provide more balanced reporting. On another matter. Please stop referring to me as a mentally retarded child. Sauce? If the WS Executive did discuss these issues I doubt they would make it public. S0 how do you know that was on the agenda and what was discussed?
  9. New ISAF CEO

    Another one bites the dust
  10. Well they can start by explaining how Cory Sertl is the chair of the world youth sub-committee and has been on the committee for years. The youth world sub committee recommend to ISAF council the venue for the youth worlds. ISAF council makes the final decision on that committees advice. Cory Sertl is also the US Sailing representative on the ISAF council and would have voted for Langkawi. US Sailing can't hide or blame ISAF when their representative proposed and voted for Langkawi.
  11. The ISAF VP for the World Youth Championships is Nazil from Turkey. If you have ever meet her it is a smart move by ISAF to put Atkins in. She would only poor fuel on the fire.
  12. Time to Burn Down ISAF and US Sailing

    It is very easy as it is all about me. Look at the race officials appointed http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/2015ISAFYouthSailingWorldsRaceOfficialAppointments-[18806].pdf Then look at the world youth sub-sommittee http://www.sailing.org/about/committees/events/youth_worlds.php There is an Austrian who votes for the games and then gets appointed on the jury. It is all about ME Now I have found out this guy is a former employee of ISAF. Snout really in the trough.
  13. Time to Burn Down ISAF and US Sailing

    It is very easy as it is all about me. Look at the race officials appointed http://www.sailing.org/tools/documents/2015ISAFYouthSailingWorldsRaceOfficialAppointments-[18806].pdf Then look at the world youth sub-sommittee http://www.sailing.org/about/committees/events/youth_worlds.php There is an Austrian who votes for the games and then gets appointed on the jury. It is all about ME