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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. Since it would require massive and multiple failures on both vessels for this to happen accidentally is it not statistically more probable that there was intention on the part of one or the other?
  2. What is the probability that the operator of the big ship deliberately rammed the navy vessel?
  3. I've been on some really fast boats but don't think I've come close to the claimed numbers. If the Astus is that fast to weather it would be a monster on the race course. The tornado being an extremely well known boat, what kind of numbers does it do going to weather in 20 knots? If the Astus could beat those numbers I'd be happily shocked and I might even buy one!
  4. The multi 23 should be lots faster than several of the tris you rated higher...many variables make it a fascinating contest.
  5. As we struggle with the Atlantic vs. Pacific question, and knowing that every boat is a compromise which rarely achieves perfection... Math,science,logic, etc... let's use Occam's razor, keep it simple. The obvious compromise between Atlantic and Pacific proa is a.... CATAMARAN! (Mr. Brown's choice for r2ak). An even better tool (in my opinion) is the trimaran due to stiffness and beam. Certainly you might save a few dollars and pounds on the proa but out in the big peepee the serious business gets done on trimarans. Always.
  6. dear mr delta v. I have seen it before, an intelligent individual with no real knowledge of boats and their design/construction thinks he can do better than the accumulated knowledge of the designers and builders who've perfected their craft over many decades of trial and error. Unfortunately, their hubris always results in garbage.
  7. I've never been aboard but my impression of the Diam is that it's more of a "lake" boat. Looks fun as hell but pitchpoling in the cold peepee is not my cup of tea.
  8. I wish thee fellows lots and lots of broad reaching!
  9. you blokes are racing a multi 23, no? Be sure and triple check the integrity/installation of all the bulkheads, especially the one in the aft end of the main hull where the "stupid" floor hatch is located. I found that that one hadn't been properly glassed-in on my m-23. Almost sunk that time, all 3 bows pointing at the moon when we finally got to the dock. Not to mention the several other catastrophic failures which plagued my existence on that particular vessel. The only thing that made up for those construction fails was broad reaching at high speed, then that extra rocker and those sweet, sweet bows were money!
  10. nacra 5.7 and 5.8 are very powerful boats, singlehanding in s.f. bay in breeze would be very challenging, righting either alone would be tough/fatal. maybe a Weta, betta?
  11. contact Bill Gibbs of ORCA. He is very good at ratings and has lots of experience with all sizes and types of multihulls.
  12. Trimaran, only 1 rudder
  13. Clarification: 7 meter trimaran weather helm on port tack, narrowed down to probable imperfection in rudder build by amateur...any ideas?
  14. How would you blokes determine if a rudder is perfectly straight and fair?
  15. I love and respect you for that answer.