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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Dilligaff: Nice photo thanks. I do lie a nice bottom. That keel on FRC is pretty typical of several on light cruising boats. I have done on light cruising boats. It's just a variation on fin and bulb and I have no idea when they first appeared. Valis: I'd call the bow of the cutter "pugnacious" also. I tried a plumb stem on Nessun Dorma's boat and we called it the"You talkin' to me ?" bow. FKT " Never stupid enough to try" I think that covers a lot of what BS claims. A couple of years back he challenged grp boat owners to come to Comox for a "demolition derby". Now that I have seen his boat I understand. He'd have nothing to lose.
  2. Jon: Let it go. He's a sociopath with zero to add to the discussion of boats. Can you even imagine sitting at a bar and having a chat with a guy like that? Put him on ignore.
  3. Yes, ruby is a sweetheart. Naughty but that comes with intelligence. She loves the boat yard. At this stage I look at the cutter with a critical eye. I am hard on myself. Some of you may not understand that. I want perfection and that is damn had to achieve. I'll get it on the next design. I can always do better. I think that is one way I am separated from BS. I am not content with my "best". I can always do better. That's what drives me. I did salmon for dinner with a lime and cilantro, garlic drizzle. My wife liked it. I know I can do better. What is life about without that need to always do better?
  4. Mike:I love the Coast Guard but I'm not sure I'd trust them as the ultimate judge of yacht build quality. I've never known them to check the build quality.
  5. That's a beaut Kris. But two off center companionways? No way will that boat survive.
  6. BS has a very short span of attention bpm57. I'd even go so far as to say he has no span of attention.
  7. BS has seen numerous photos of my office but he can't digest what he sees if it does not fit into his minute view of the world. There must be a significant portion of his brain missing.
  8. I really don't know why the boat was outside today. I didn't ask. Before I left it went back into the building. The hull now has the final primer coat on and is ready for the fancy stuff. Jim Betts gave me my birthday present today. Now I need to mount it on the wall of the office. I am very short of wall space. It's carbon fiber tiller half. I also got my little hi-fi table today all clear coated and pretty. I installed it so I can now see my phono stage and phono stage power supply, two important boxes Hey, it's my hobby. It does not have to make sense! Will Porter is chugging along working on the 3D model of the strong back for the titanium cat plug. Will is coming down to celebrate the 4th of July with us next week.
  9. " Stuffy offgice in suberbia"? Hardly BS. My office is on the beach in a beautiful home with an indoor swimming pool. You will never know the enjoyment I get of living AND working here. You are an ignorant person incapable of absorbing any new information. You live in a mud flat fantasy land. You have posted nothing new in over two years. Earth to BS, it's 2017 ans what do you have to show for it? You really sound like a broken record BS and it has gotten you nowhere. I'm just back from the yard. I have some great photos to post. Give me five minutes.
  10. We did a 60'er in the UK, Tumbridge Wells, and it was LLoyds inspected frequently during the build. Prior to the build extensive plans were submitted for approval. They would come back with arrows and circles for things that needed changing. LLloyds scantlings are VERY conservative. Maybe next week 'll get some of those drawings scanned and I'll post them. We can then wait for BS to post what he submitted to LLoyds. Don't hold your breath. Those BS drawings don't exist. I went through the same LLoyds process for the Lafitte 66 built in Taiwan. They required an additional longitudinal aft in the quarters. It was a canoe stern boat with a lot of shape aft.I think the added longitudinal was overkill but LLoyds did not. The last ABS certified boat I did was built at Schooner Creek. Again, lots of inspections and lot of drawings required to be certified. BS should double think his BS before he posts it here. We know better. He should stay away from areas where he has zero experience.
  11. I have done both LLoyds and ABS certified boats before and they always involved plan approval. I don't believe that BS is capable of producing the type of drawings required.
  12. This is what I like to see: One of my many children, this one a Fair Weather Mariner 38, anchored in Western Sumatra. Talk is cheap. But seeing people having a great time is priceless. Got this photo on Facebook a few minutes ago. I could be wrong but I'd say this beats a stanky mudflat any day. Nice lines on that stout boat if I do say so myself.
  13. I'm surprised that LLoyds would even certify a frameless steel boat. Can anyone verify that? I've read that bashing though 5" of ice BS before several times. I have never been in ice like that so I have no clew. But I do have a brain and it always seems incredulous to me. I am glad there are people here with ice experience to call BS on BS.
  14. Or, check out sugar beet farmer Lanny Crocker's alu Norseman 447. Built in Lanny's barn. No radiused corners. Welding a deck is no excuse for ugliness. It's just a product of lack of design skills.
  15. Here is proof that a steel deck, without radiused corners does not have to look like a clumsy POS. All you need is skilled design help.