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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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  1. In the 10years of owning an RS700, I only ever needed rescue support on a few occasions, mainly when the wind dropped to nothing, but I did have a couple of scary moments, and I'd be pretty nervous about sailing without some form of safety cover, but then we tend to be spoiled with safety cover here in the UK as most dinghy sailors are members of clubs where members complete duties in the rescue boats to ensure that when we are racing we have cover. Before owning the 700 I had had a 4yr stint doing the 600 circuit, then 2years in the 49er so I was plenty able to sail this type of boat. The 600 took me about 6 months to crack and enabled me to then pretty much sail anything but I was a reasonably fit 6ft 2" 84kg guy in my early 20s moving from Lasers and having been dinghy racing since the age of 4. Do I think DTA could master a 700, possibly, but having seen the Aero and Vago videos he posted, I'd say it would be a longer and difficult period. Sailing these types of boats needs a real 'feel' for what the boat is doing. If you can't feel the fact that you are sailing an Aero on its ear when your arse and legs are in the boat, then its going to be even harder to feel what the boat is doing when its only your toes that are in contact with it. I would definately try and get a go in one before you commit because its a hell of a lot of money to throw away if you dont manage to get the hang of it.
  2. Glen, There is very little to be gained over a soft sail by having a wing with a sealed flap. The only way to make it a viable proposition is to have a slot and if possible some form of slot control. Working out a simple method of maintaining a desirable slot took the C-class guys a while to work out but it can be done with differing levels of success, mainly due to the incredible sensitivity of the slot geometry. Aircraft manufacturers spend a great deal of their development time optimising slat and flap gaps and overlaps for very good reason. I haven't paid much attention to the amendments in the moth rules, but I am guessing they limited the number of elements to mast and sail, therefore 2. A translating/deformable trailing edge on element 1, and element 2 kinematic to allow it to tack without hitting the trailing edge of 1 is therefore needed if you want to beat the camber induced soft sails.
  3. I used to sail my 700 with my eyes closed in an attempt to learn the feel of the boat and to practice muscle memory. It's pretty easy to be honest.
  4. You need to keep the boat flatter and centre the tiller as the boom comes over or even steer slightly back into the gybe. Dont ease the kicker/vang too much as this causes the head to gybe but not the boom and you end up getting wobbly. in 10kts of breeze you should easily be able to come into the gybe with enough speed to pull the falls of the mainsheet across quickly as you cross the boat. The temptation is to stay in the middle of the boat and ease the falls out but dont. Once you know the boom is coming over, just get out to the new wing a plonk your arse down and sheet on to stop yourself going in to windward.
  5. If we go back to the original request which was how can little Johny progress from Oppy to 49er, then its clear thanks to Julians plot that most dinghies sit on a curve which when applied to his latest plot initially starts as a vertical line before veering off to the right. By and large all boats fall within a reasonable spread either side of this line, with the exception of the IC. So in real terms it shows that any boat along this line could provide progression towards the 49er. BUT As others have stated, what is driving the desire to progress to the 49er? Is it pushy parents keen for their offspring to achieve something that they wish they'd known about and been able to have a go at, or is it a genuine desire by the children to aspire to the 49er? Having been a 49er sailor I can understand the appeal and Im sure if I were a 12yr old attending the Dinghy Show I'd probably be leaving telling my parents that I want to sail a 49er or a Moth, but high performance sailing is just a small branch of a much larger tree, and in todays box ticking environment Im sure many will have a go, tick the box and move on to something else. I started my sailing well down the curve, gradually progressing along it, all the way to 49er. It wasn't planned I just got drawn that way over time, but interestingly I am rapidly moving back down the curve, back to a different type of sailing. My first backward step if you like, sent me way off, firmly into the top left box, but now I am well and truly in the bottom left box, and actually I think I am enjoying my racing more and its not just me, its certainly feels in the UK that the HP era is peetering out save for the 5 ring circus wanabees in the 9er and the Moth. Boats like Solos, OKs, Fireballs, RS200, Aeros and even Lasers are drawing more people into close boat-on-boat racing where everyone is close together on the water and jostling for position the whole way around the course. High performance sailing will live on, as sure as eggs are eggs, people will want to sail fast, but I see it becoming a minority activity. For the first time in years, youth teams are taking part in events in boats like GPs and Graduates which wern't deemed cool but it seems we are entering a retro phase!
  6. I fully agree with everything that blunted has said. The class will progress because it draws in interest from those not purely driven to succed on the racecourse but by those keen to succeed on the drawing board, in essence its an academics boat. It took me years to realise. If you look back to the early 2000s, Cogito was pretty much the only boat. It had beaten Yellow Pages and Lindsey Cunningham had given up and gone on to try and steal the fastest sailboat record. Everyone thought the class was dead. It was only really through Normans ambition to challenge the status quo with his own ideas which brought Invictus to fruition, which then spurred on Steve to promote the class and encourage others to partake including the Ronstan team in Oz. The rest of the recent success is down to Steve Clarks openess. I for one have always been a strong advocate of the, 'Copy the top boat, learn to sail it really well and then develop the concept', the approach that blunted and the gang took, however there are certainly many in the class who prefer to start with a clean sheet of paper, ignore the current boats and do something different. Without them the class would be a bit sterile, so whatever happens to the C-class as long as the rules allow these off the wall design exercises to take place then it will remain the interesting class that we all want it to be.
  7. AIRBUS has a pretty big operation in Witchita and Mobile so a significant US presence. If you think they are simply a European business think again, they are now a global enterprise.
  8. I had an invite to the Clevedon demo, but couldn't make it as I was sailing 20 miles further up the Bristol Channel. For those who don't know this specific stretch of water, it is one of the most tidal stretches in the world and with wind against tide not only do you get a short sharp steep chop, but you also get large standing waves. A couple of our club members went to have a look although none of them sailed the boat, but they all came back saying that the boat just worked perfectly. If a boat is going to get punished for being nosey, then it would certainly do so at Clevedon, but everyone I spoke to who was there said there were no such problems. So get out there and have a go. PS Rodney, can you get one or two up to Thornbury SC for us to play with?
  9. When you consider that a considerable number of the Artemis, Oracle and ETNZ design teams studies their craft at Southampton and Solent Universities, we have Green marine, Pendennis and various other yacht manufacturers as well as a whole host of smaller carbon specialists, and contrarory to the general economic situation there are still plenty of big corporate backers out there if you look hard enough. The issue will be finding a suitable backer with deep pockets that doesnt mind forking out if the next ac isnt just a development of this one.
  10. Congratulations Paul. Aiming for the 60kt average now?
  11. Nasty injury Andy, hope it gets better soon. So whats the next plan for TT? a new luff tube sail with camber inducers ?
  12. I would imagine its to avoid the boom squashing the cunningham control line, and also give a nice fixation for the cunningham block rather than tying it off on the gooseneck. One other point is that the kicker attaches to the hull on the same plane as the gooseneck so that you dont get the kicker trying to pull the boom out. It certainly looks very nice. I'm normally a fan of yellow but I have to say I thought Chris's boat looked awesome in white. I'm still interested to hear how Mr Paterson is getting on with his tiller linkages, anyone got any news, Andy where have you gone? are you too busy building a Suicide (sorry Atkin 1.25).
  13. Andy P, How did the steering mech work at the inlands ?
  14. Andy, What about leading the tiller extension through a nylon ring connected to the end of the seat with shockcord. If you run the shockcord from the carriage out to the windward end of the plank, then turned it back to the leeward end of the plank and then had it exit the plank on the aft edge and tied to the ring, when the seat is out to windward it will tension the leeward ring holding the tiller extension in. When you tack, as the seat is slid through the middle the elastic would slacken reducing any tendancy for the rings to prevent the steering command. Once the seat was fully across your new leeward extension would be pulled in tight and the windward extension would have enough slack for you to steer without having to work against the elastic. Just a thought !
  15. Andy, With the Suicide 125 you arnt going to have a carriage in the way therefore a centre mainsheet bridle would be acceptable as per most of the RSs. When you created the underslung rudder with the large rotating drum, what were your reasons for not hanging the rudder through a plug with a sealed bearing, I thought the nethercotts had something similar, or does it not work too well?