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  1. stayoutofthemiddle

    Chicago Area III

    AIS requirement for the Mac is crazy. Sailboats move slow and freighters can see them on the radar. I'm looking at a setup for my boat for cruising and it's ~$850 + tax. $600 for the transponder / receiver. https://www.landfallnavigation.com/vesper-ais-xb-6000-transponder.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw59n8BRD2ARIsAAmgPmIXzPwlu2O16hjjz2fTf2yHCTqnTgvqzqPqAqH_HnJ1vhWCmwEmUzcaAh32EALw_wcB Plus $250 the VHF splitter... https://www.landfallnavigation.com/vesper-ais-vhf-antenna-splitter.html?gclid=Cj0KCQjw59n8BRD2ARIsAAmgPmJA3XtaaL5gcYXZ6Gd931e_TiLB6WFspWy1ZgaCxA9TJXetyWK5jd4aAgw-EALw_wcB
  2. stayoutofthemiddle

    where in San Diego is the best place to keep a 30' boat

    Someone snap a photo of these "docks" for us out of towners! Are they REALLY that bad?? Surprised it's not a YC liability concern. Someone falls through and breaks leg or worse....
  3. stayoutofthemiddle

    Chicago Area III

    Crazy to see how many boats raced back then. Huge sections!
  4. stayoutofthemiddle

    Chicago Area III

    2021 should be a good year... Here are results from 20 years ago from 2000 Tri-State for a good laugh! Some old familiar names in here: 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 1 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 19:30:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 28115 -63 Mirage SNC70 68 Santa Cruise Group CYC 1: 1:41:16 6:11:16 - 0:51:52 7: 3: 8 1 1 18970 -57 Nitemare S/C70 68 Neill, Tom CYC 1: 1:53:11 6:23:11 - 0:46:56 7:10: 7 2 2 54 -72 Blondie SC70 68 Corbett/Sammann MCYC 1: 1:42:22 6:12:22 - 0:59:17 7:11:39 3 4 87666 -69 Thirsty Tiger SNC70 68 D'Ottavio, Albert CYC 1: 1:49:45 6:19:45 - 0:56:49 7:16:34 4 5 38006 24 Eagle Syd38 38 O'Neill Jerry/Shawn CYC 1: 3:18:59 7:48:59 0:19:46 7:29:13 5 8 42440 15 Criterion Sover 50 Mitchell, Roger CYC 1: 3:20:16 7:50:16 0:12:21 7:37:55 6 13 47 -9 goblin.com Tripp 47 Verb,R/Thomas, L CYC 1: 3: 2:44 7:32:44 - 0: 7:25 7:40: 9 7 15 51477 3 Coup d'etat Bn407 47 Ellasser, Ron/Jerri CYC 1: 3:17:24 7:47:24 0: 2:28 7:44:56 8 21 38007 24 Serenissima Syd38 38 Munden, Robin BPYC 1: 3:40:59 8:10:59 0:19:46 7:51:13 9 23 50136 24 Salsa J130 43 Stott, Pete CYC 1: 3:41:59 8:11:59 0:19:46 7:52:13 10 24 51356 -6 Jeannine 3 J125 41 Roeser, Jack COL 1: 3:24:10 7:54:10 - 0: 4:56 7:59: 6 11 25 411 15 Airwaves CM 39 Smirl, Dale JPYC 1: 3:43:14 8:13:14 0:12:21 8: 0:53 12 26 38005 24 Painkiller 4 Syd38 39 Martin, Alice O. COL 1: 3:54:29 8:24:29 0:19:46 8: 4:43 13 27 51354 0 J. Swift Schok 40 Nolan, Ronald COL 1: 3:54:16 8:24:16 0: 0: 0 8:24:16 14 31 3 51 Windancer MUM30 30 Tollefson, Bob COL 1: 5:19:23 9:49:23 0:41:59 9: 7:24 15 56 377 81 Gonzo J105 34 Ed Reagan/Ken Ganch COL 1: 7: 7:11 11:37:11 1: 6:41 10:30:30 16 75 168 -21 Viking IV Oys68 68 Fritz Duda/Papanek CYC 1: 7:42:54 12:12:54 - 0:17:17 12:30:11 17 96 50474 51 Don Quixote J120 40 Don, Robert WYC DNC 50750 -15 Success Tripp 47 Greenwald, Michael CYC DNC 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 2 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 19:20:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 42252 63 Spitfire Frk39 39 J.K & Erik Hellquist WYC 1: 3:41:10 8:21:10 0:51:52 7:29:18 1 9 40625 60 Regardless Nmark 39 Taylor, S./Gullo, D. CYC 1: 3:40:27 8:20:27 0:49:24 7:31: 3 2 10 41940 69 Eagle's Wings Frers 41 Gottwald, John J. COL 1: 3:51:12 8:31:12 0:56:49 7:34:23 3 11 5165 66 Caprice C&C43 43 Elliott,S/Miller,J COL 1: 3:55:36 8:35:36 0:54:20 7:41:16 4 16 32641 63 Folie A Deux N/M41 41 Kwiat, Larry T. COL 1: 3:53:18 8:33:18 0:51:52 7:41:26 5 17 42492 69 Michela C&C37 39 Gambetta, Miguel MCYC 1: 3:59: 9 8:39: 9 0:56:49 7:42:20 6 18 50900 66 Wooton2 Sabre 40 Smith, William H. CYC 1: 3:57:34 8:37:34 0:54:20 7:43:14 7 19 50498 66 Big Meanie Ben42 42 Prendergast,Jim/Rich CYC 1: 4: 0:26 8:40:26 0:54:20 7:46: 6 8 22 51170 54 Tsunami Bn407 39 Hayes, Donald BPYC 1: 4:44: 5 9:24: 5 0:44:28 8:39:37 9 39 51377 54 Vayu Bn407 39 Buzil, Ron CCYC 1: 4:47:49 9:27:49 0:44:28 8:43:21 10 41 9449 54 Majic Bn407 39 Ruley, Dorsey CYC DNC 33550 60 Quick Willy JN40 40 Holleman, Gary N/A DNF 51146 54 La Tempete Bn407 39 Weber, Tom & Deb BPYC DNC 77790 60 Ripple N/M 41 Rafson, Robert CCYC 1: 5:13:45 9:53:45 0:49:24 9: 4:21 DNE 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 3 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 19:10:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 32705 78 Outrageous Ben42 42 Comeaux, Jeff/Carol CYC 1: 3:32:33 8:22:33 1: 4:13 7:18:20 1 6 83088 96 Fin-Esse Sir38 38 McMillian, Alan C. CYC 1: 3:57:44 8:47:44 1:19: 2 7:28:42 2 7 16643 87 Siren Song Pet40 40 Merlin, Tom CYC 1: 3:57: 6 8:47: 6 1:11:38 7:35:28 3 12 15002 78 Stars & Stripes NM39 39 Bailey, Stan COL 1: 3:54: 4 8:44: 4 1: 4:13 7:39:51 4 14 20630 78 Fury C&C42 42 Powell, Gary CYC 1: 3:58:43 8:48:43 1: 4:13 7:44:30 5 20 104 90 Vytis J-105 35 Petkus, Tomas BPYC 1: 4:46:31 9:36:31 1:14: 6 8:22:25 6 29 25199 93 Assassin Sovrl 33 Sansom, R./Burton, R COL 1: 4:49:22 9:39:22 1:16:34 8:22:48 7 30 6204 87 Rush N/M36 36 Alisch, Jeff STJ 1: 4:48: 9 9:38: 9 1:11:38 8:26:31 8 32 50638 81 Pronto II J/105 34 Edman, Tom & Marilyn JPYC 1: 4:48:25 9:38:25 1: 6:41 8:31:44 9 33 26605 87 Ozymandias NA40 40 Frey, Andrew CCYC 1: 4:53:41 9:43:41 1:11:38 8:32: 3 10 34 40742 81 CanCan Ben42 42 Boltz, Clemens COL 1: 4:51:11 9:41:11 1: 6:41 8:34:30 11 35 43781 75 Draco Tripp 33 Vanderpoel, Michael CYC 1: 4:47:42 9:37:42 1: 1:45 8:35:57 12 37 41625 72 Sorcerer shk35 35 Hetherington, Irv COL 1: 4:50:59 9:40:59 0:59:17 8:41:42 13 40 63350 81 Phantom Ben42 42 Rickelman, Thomas E. COL 1: 5: 3:22 9:53:22 1: 6:41 8:46:41 14 43 32010 87 Moody Blue NM/36 36 Barton, William STJ 1: 5:11:27 10: 1:27 1:11:38 8:49:49 15 45 50798 90 Certainly J110 36 Meyer, Donald E. COL 1: 5:15: 4 10: 5: 4 1:14: 6 8:50:58 16 46 42521 72 Novocain T35 35 Bunger, Gary COL 1: 5: 3:41 9:53:41 0:59:17 8:54:24 17 51 42234 81 Serenity Ben42 42 Marks, J./Hirsch, A. CYC 1: 5:11:28 10: 1:28 1: 6:41 8:54:47 18 52 50326 75 Geronimo ER33 33 Forney,B./D. Rearick MCYC 1: 5:13:29 10: 3:29 1: 1:45 9: 1:44 19 54 50993 87 Wild Wind Ben46 46 Conwell, Thomas WYC 1: 5:33:35 10:23:35 1:11:38 9:11:57 20 59 32611 78 Mirage Ben42 42 Boyle, John & Gerry COL 1: 5:29: 9 10:19: 9 1: 4:13 9:14:56 21 60 73017 90 Maskwa Exprs 35 Waller, Donald P. BPYC 1: 5:39:53 10:29:53 1:14: 6 9:15:47 22 61 42998 72 Captain Blood Schok 35 Locke, Bob & Judee BPYC 1: 5:26:58 10:16:58 0:59:17 9:17:41 23 63 42747 84 Scheherezade Lex34 34 Alwattar/Coppleson CYC 1: 5:53:10 10:43:10 1: 9:10 9:34: 0 24 67 50628 75 Feeling Free II cc37 40 Merriman, Roger CCYC 1: 5:52:55 10:42:55 1: 1:45 9:41:10 25 69 33951 81 Lionheart Ben42 42 Zeman/Wesolek/McGoug CYC DNC 42652 87 Overdraft Bn405 40 Scott, Todd AYC DNC 50988 81 Andiamo J/105 34 Juel, Craig & Norma MCYC RET 63043 81 Kiaora Ben42 42 Carroll, Ronald COL DNC 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 4 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 19:00:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 50971 102 Lucky Comet Comar 42 Giampoli, Frank BPYC 1: 3:34:53 8:34:53 1:23:59 7:10:54 1 3 32022 111 Caress Erics 36 Weglarz, Jon & Mark COL 1: 4:50:51 9:50:51 1:31:23 8:19:28 2 28 42428 99 My Whim Huntr 37 O'Malley, William BPYC 1: 4:58: 8 9:58: 8 1:21:31 8:36:37 3 38 31796 111 Wave Length Erics 36 Norbut, Jerry E. MORF 1: 5:19: 4 10:19: 4 1:31:23 8:47:41 4 44 40731 102 Runaway Tarta 40 Gorey, Tom CCYC 1: 5:15:11 10:15:11 1:23:59 8:51:12 5 47 26660 117 Wind Quest C&C38 38 Phelps, Bob CYC 1: 5:28: 3 10:28: 3 1:36:20 8:51:43 6 48 34435 117 Wings C&C35 35 Bowker, Anthony COL 1: 5:28:18 10:28:18 1:36:20 8:51:58 7 49 33912 117 Wave Dancer Sabre 36 Sklar, Michael CYC 1: 5:29: 7 10:29: 7 1:36:20 8:52:47 8 50 32275 117 Free Agent J29 29 Depaepe, Miles MORF 1: 5:35:11 10:35:11 1:36:20 8:58:51 9 53 6525 117 Cahoots Pet34 34 Vigil, Thomas R. CYC 1: 5:44:24 10:44:24 1:36:20 9: 8: 4 10 57 20442 114 Dandelion Herit 37 Jacobs, Tom STJ 1: 5:43:25 10:43:25 1:33:52 9: 9:33 11 58 43807 114 Spirit Of Adventure C&C37 37 Gustman, David SSYC 1: 5:57: 5 10:57: 5 1:33:52 9:23:13 12 65 54951 105 Tenacity Ols34 34 O'Connell/Clark/Hood BPYC 1: 5:57:54 10:57:54 1:26:27 9:31:27 13 66 25255 108 Jack-A-Roe Olsn 30 Dybas, John JPYC 1: 6:12:51 11:12:51 1:28:55 9:43:56 14 70 41311 108 Mystified Frers 33 McCluskey, Thom BPYC 1: 6:52:49 11:52:49 1:28:55 10:23:54 15 73 51057 108 Das Boot Bentu 36 Muller, Jay & Cindy COL 1: 7: 6:52 12: 6:52 1:28:55 10:37:57 16 76 87222 114 Glass Slipper Capri 30 Bakowski, Marek CCYC 1: 7:24:26 12:24:26 1:33:52 10:50:34 17 78 36012 108 Most Wanted NY36 36 Janik, James CCYC 1: 8:25:38 13:25:38 1:28:55 11:56:43 18 93 50924 102 Zaza Colada Huntr 37 Clairardin, Xavier N/A 1: 9: 3:10 14: 3:10 1:23:59 12:39:11 19 97 22955 117 Stealth C&C38 37 Francissen, Jim CYC DNC 51294 126 Toucan Catal 38 Craig/Day Olney ANYC DNF 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 5 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 18:50:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 6869 135 Cynthia Morgn 41 DeVries, James STJ 1: 5:16:47 10:26:47 1:51: 9 8:35:38 1 36 41037 123 Sneak Attack J34 34 Neal, John MCYC 1: 5:33:42 10:43:42 1:41:16 9: 2:26 2 55 6710 135 Kutty's Ark Pears 36 McGinnis/Morrissey COL 1: 5:58:39 11: 8:39 1:51: 9 9:17:30 3 62 26142 129 Accord C&C36 36 Hansmann/Dobius COL 1: 6:13:55 11:23:55 1:46:13 9:37:42 4 68 15171 132 Kahuna S29.1 30 Thompson, Loren BPYC 1: 6:40:41 11:50:41 1:48:41 10: 2: 0 5 72 41451 135 Stray Mark T34-2 34 Smith, Ken & Donna MORF 1: 7:59:44 13: 9:44 1:51: 9 11:18:35 6 82 51076 135 Time Out Huntr 35 Kroll, Mark S. COL 1: 8:19: 0 13:29: 0 1:51: 9 11:37:51 7 86 43697 132 Escape C&C 33 Thomas M. Mikos HYC 1: 8:18: 0 13:28: 0 1:48:41 11:39:19 8 88 41587 126 Quicksilver Laser 28 Dorenbos, Peter CCYC 1: 8:13:38 13:23:38 1:43:44 11:39:54 9 89 50447 135 Perfect Lady T-34 34 Vargish, Thomas JPYC 1: 8:31: 0 13:41: 0 1:51: 9 11:49:51 10 90 51018 129 Ruby Tuesday Bentu 35 Nelson, Dave COL 1: 8:35:42 13:45:42 1:46:13 11:59:29 11 94 NONE 120 Lively Romp Morgn 38 Oberle, Thomas C. MCYC DNC 40884 126 Latest Trick Olsen 30 Schneider, Nicholas JPYC DNC 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 6 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 18:40:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 41312 141 The Cruzer O'Day 35 Cruz, Jairo & Maria JPYC 1: 5:22:45 10:42:45 1:56: 5 8:46:40 1 42 30789 138 Painkiller J-30 30 Woods, Larry COL 1: 5:52:16 11:12:16 1:53:37 9:18:39 2 64 15329 144 Firecracker Erc34 34 Gottwald, John\Jane BPYC 1: 7: 8:12 12:28:12 1:58:34 10:29:38 3 74 26219 138 Circus J-30 30 Bird/Horn COL 1: 7:23:54 12:43:54 1:53:37 10:50:17 4 77 358 138 Marijke J-30 30 Veersma, Jon STJ 1: 7:24:48 12:44:48 1:53:37 10:51:11 5 79 243 138 Awesome J30 30 Smith, Bill & Vivian MORF 1: 7:43:47 13: 3:47 1:53:37 11:10:10 6 80 26037 150 Rogue Eric 34 Hoswell, Jeff JPYC 1: 7:58: 0 13:18: 0 2: 3:30 11:14:30 7 81 50662 156 Karizmaddie Catal 32 Reynolds, Patrick HYC 1: 8:41:50 14: 1:50 2: 8:26 11:53:24 8 92 26004 144 Dragon Lady C&C34 34 Kalinsky, Raymond BPYC 1: 8:44:30 14: 4:30 1:58:34 12: 5:56 9 95 16673 150 Celestial C&C33 33 Kehoe, B./Steele, A MCYC DNC 32nd Chicago-St. Joseph Race PHRF 7 ******************************FINAL************************* Race Scoring Data - Start Date: 09/01/00 Start Time: 18:30:00 Race Distance: 49.4 Course Flag: Sail No. Rating Yacht Name Type Len Owner Club Finish Elapsed Allowance Corrected Sec Flt Note -------- ------ -------------------- ---- --- -------------------- ----- ---------- --------- --------- --------- --- --- ----- 6649 159 Providence Eric 35 Miarecki, Gerald CYC 1: 6:28:50 11:58:50 2:10:55 9:47:55 1 71 26277 174 Aguila chrsl 27 Gignac, James A. CCYC 1: 8:20:19 13:50:19 2:23:16 11:27: 3 2 83 42293 189 DeDa's Toy Cal 31 Graves, Theodore L. JPYC 1: 8:35:14 14: 5:14 2:35:37 11:29:37 3 84 15463 165 Radiance Trtn 30 White, Benjamin CCYC 1: 8:17:50 13:47:50 2:15:51 11:31:59 4 85 32789 159 Gadzooks Capo 26 Kall, S./Depel, T. CCYC 1: 8:19:57 13:49:57 2:10:55 11:39: 2 5 87 16745 165 Zanjero SanJn 30 Bock, George E. STJ 1: 8:37: 0 14: 7: 0 2:15:51 11:51: 9 6 91 E90 216 GAL Colum 29 Moelter, Charles B. CCYC DNF 113 186 Lidzia II Persn 38 Laucius, Arvydas CCYC DNC 51337 180 Teophilia Cre37 37 Luken, Martin CYC DNC
  5. stayoutofthemiddle

    Ericson 35? Ed is mooching for pickle dishes

    fair. just wasn't sure if it was the photo or actually a bit tired.
  6. stayoutofthemiddle

    Ericson 35? Ed is mooching for pickle dishes

    hull paint looks good. rig looks like shit, or at least in the photo on the front page. No buffing the aluminum or a powder coat job?
  7. stayoutofthemiddle

    Trucking a 40.7

    From where to where? Can you move it on it's bottom? 16K is a lot of diesel!
  8. stayoutofthemiddle

    Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Is this story officially over?! There will be no new voyage?!
  9. stayoutofthemiddle

    SORC - The Glory Years?

    Sure? The genoa looked nailed in.
  10. stayoutofthemiddle

    SORC - The Glory Years?

    Pretty epic photo! I hope the crew has this one framed on the wall. Looks like they are beating perpendicular to the wave action. Brutal day on the rail.
  11. stayoutofthemiddle

    SORC - The Glory Years?

    ....more questions from the yuts! Can someone remind me what the "double" spinnakers are called? Why was this design killed off? I seems you'd have more sail area thus faster downhill....
  12. stayoutofthemiddle

    SORC - The Glory Years?

    Looks like breeze on here uphill! Where is this photo taken? Which SORC course? Is this why someone mentioned above the SC70's would never have done well if they had showed up??!!!
  13. stayoutofthemiddle

    Engineering Career in Sailing

    I'm a Mechanical Engineer. I had an offer from Harken after college but then paid about 20% below other industries. That gap will only widen over your career. Don't go into that industry as there isn't much money. Pick a more lucrative industry and buy your own boat! Same thing applies to engineers as Harley Davidson. They trade passion for salary...
  14. stayoutofthemiddle

    SORC - The Glory Years?

    Before the days of email and mobile devices so being gone from the office that long was probably very noticeable!
  15. stayoutofthemiddle

    SORC - The Glory Years?

    Did the SC 70's participate? Sounds like there was weeks and weeks of sailing events! Who had that much time off work unless you were a rich owner or paid pro, or was that the only make up of the crews?!