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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. On a dip pole the outboard end is not supposed to cross above the pulpit. Inboard end up and outboard end down near deck level. You should be able to easily convert your pin stop car to block and line. Usually is a way to lock the pin in open position. Mike
  2. The J80 is 12 years newer. if the same price should be a good deal. The J27 often has had problems with wet decks and occasionally wet hull. Not sure what coring material a 2001 J80 has in deck but think it is not balsa. These issues may make the J80 a better boat but you need to check both out carefully. I have a friend with a J80. Big cockpit. We owned a J27 for 7 years (Nut Case / Lickity Split / Reckless Disregard and now Line Drive). It has a huge cockpit as well but has coamings so is a more relaxing cockpit when at dock or just day sailing. More interior as well (it has an interior but is cramped). We overnighted aboard the J27 many times. Bunks are comfortable and have slept 4 at times and often 3 aboard. Not really possible with the J80. I think the J80 is probably simpler to race with a crew of 3 but on the J27 we often raced with 3, 4 or 5. In anything but light wind 5 was necessary. Loved the 27. The J80 seems fun as well. You will love either boat Mike Formerly Nut Case 1987 J27 #151
  3. We had a J27 for 7 years and loved it. Now have a Frers 33. Everything is MUCH MORE expensive with the 33 and I would expect no different with a 32 footer. The Evelyn is a Masthead rig vs the J27 a fractional rig. J27 headsails will be FAR cheaper as a result. With a 32 foot Masthead rig you will probably want at least three headsails vs only 2 for the J27. A 155 genoa on the J27 runs under $3000 CAD vs on a 32 or 33 ft boat at least $5000 CAD and probably more. The other thing I would consider is that the 32 is likely better for distance and offshore conditions than the 27. Our 27 was a great boat but a wet ride. Not sure about the Evelyn. Typical J27 crew is 5 or 6. Good luck. They both seem to be great boats
  4. Handicappers try their best in an impossible situation. Anyone who complains should just fuck off and go one design. and then hope that once they buy their OD boat others buy the same design ...
  5. can you post the link to the 16K boat? I cannot find it on YW
  6. no. a friend is looking. I will likely race on it frequently though
  7. Looking for an inexpensive J80 to refurbish. Preferably on East Coast. Wet deck core type problems, that sort of thing. Preferably dry hull. Any leads?
  8. I sail til end of October, get ready for Christmas and then ski season. The weekend after skiing is done I am working on the boat. Haul late and launch early is my plan ...
  9. Most of the beneteau First 35 from 81 - 84 that I see pictures of have baby stay and not check stay. you should investigate that as an option to see if boat was originally equipped in that manner. If so is a lot simpler for single handing
  10. TOD makes no sense at all when courses need to be shortened or wind strength changes noticably
  11. A J29 that is nicely cleaned up on the inside has plenty of room. Good light air performance and in your PHRF stated range Good luck finding a frers 30. very few around and none for sale that I could find I second the Laser 28
  12. Nice reference to Poohsticks! That was what the boat was named after - stick floating under a bridge ....
  13. Confederate Battle Flag. Emblem of a nationalist movement whose defining ideal involved the freedom of some folks to exploit and subjugate some other folks on the basis or race. Swasticker. Emblem of a nationalist movement whose defining ideal involved the freedom of some folks to exploit and subjugate some other folks on the basis of race. Argue the detail if you like but the big red elephant in the room will still be there. I am sorry. Up here in Canada we must have learned history incorrectly. What I have always believed was that the American civil war was about some states' desire to leave the union and the rest of the union's desire to forcibly make them stay. As far as I know the black slavery issue was brought up after the war's start by Abraham Lincoln as a brilliant strategy to unify support against the Confederacy. Just a thought.
  14. I have always found Sailnet useful for specific maintenance advice. Not a fun forum like SA and no trashing of other people's posts. That said it is a bit too fragmented for my liking. Mike
  15. I would sail around the world in a SJ24. Of course I would have it lashed down in the hold of a very large freighter ....