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  1. Repeating myself but you could throw in this k-car Ish. (It's really more of a Buick Lesabre)
  2. Chris Craft for Sale (Wilmington)

    Does the Lobo sale include the furnishings? And, in a trade for advertising, what is the specific product category and type being advertised? I can only sell space to legitimate businesses with family friendly products. Please respond in-line I do not read PMs. Thank You.
  3. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    Dog, I mean Slug, are you 007?
  4. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    I thought you didn't like rats boarding your boat from the stern "ropes". I suppose the village rats are better mannered than the country rats found on wild anchrages, so OK.
  5. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    I used to anchor the small keel boats I've owned like that. I wasn't single handed, I just thought it was a better way to anchor since those boats didn't have bow anchor lockers anyway, and walking forward with the anchor and rode, even a light Fortress like I used, seemed silly. Also, backing down to set anchor with a 4hp outboard is just an unsightly routine--leaning off the transom like a moron while you try to hold it down and give it some throttle in it's reverse "position", since there's no reverse gear. The only thing I would add is that I usually had the main down and flaked on, and sailed in on the jib/genny and would just sheet out all the way when I had the momentum I wanted. If it was really blowing I'd take down the jib too before dropping the hook off the back. Another thing driving that technique was the goal of sailing all weekend without using the outboard if possible. Our first boat was an S20 that we camped on one summer, weekends usually just Saturday night, and I liked to keep the outboard stowed all weekend if possible and not sully the Swan-like reverse transom! The next summer we traded for a Capri 25 that had something you could call an interior, that was a fun boat for two, and we kept the same anchoring technique. Slug man: is that your boat? Looks like a Trintella. I know you're a global sailor and all, so how did you come up with your Peyton Manning avatar? And stay off that leward rail dude, you could get killed down there.
  6. Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    That S&S aluminum thoroughbred will look great in your backyard Sloop. Nobody will complain.
  7. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    Yeah, the stern tie makes so much more room for everyone. Slug, there is drift wood piled everywhere and rings already placed in some anchorages, the trees are ok. It's easy and where there are large tides and currents boats don't swing predictably together in narrow anchorages. Do you really anchor in 50' of water as a rule? You piloting a tanker?
  8. Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    That is/was an awesome nav station. Looks like the clock and barometer have already been harvested. the flex-o-fold is on it's way somewhere. Is that a marine ADF low center?
  9. Mocking Ads on Craigslist

    I agree it's scary. Scary because, if you had a place to moor it, and if a survey didn't find any catastrophic issues, it would be tempting to do a very minimal clean-up, say $20K budget, and use it for a couple of summers. Even with marginal sails it would fun. Finding enough crew might be tough. The mockable part of the ad is posting almost no info on the actual condition and stating, "I will not answer thousands of questions from dreamers." Then just donate the boat and don't try to squeeze 25k out of it. The sales history would be interesting. What did it trade for five years ago?
  10. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    And inside the red tube on the right is the "Fire Control Plan". The plan is written on a scroll of asbestos based paper in sixty languages. After you read it you can use it as a fire blanket.
  11. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    Always know what the placards onboard mean. The green one below for example means that families of five are to run east.
  12. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    15M? Isn't that almost 50'?
  13. Slightly Obscure But Very Helpful

    Something PNW sailors usually know, but East coast sailors often don't, is that in most conditions you really don't need a 7:1 or 8:1 or 10:1 scope on your anchor rode. 3:1 or 4:1 is usually plenty, and then you're not swinging into the neighbors, at least not uninvited. Recently, I saw a 60' center cockpit with a big sat dome and a CQR anchor, put a 200' pile of chain on the bottom just behind the anchor in 10' of water. Guy sets anchor, walks forward and you hear the windlass clink clink clink paying out chain for two minutes. He bought all that nice chain and wants to get his money's worth.
  14. This is interesting... Cooper 42

    Are they repairing the teak decks from the inside? The smelly Helly hull liner is nice.
  15. A dollar per mile

    There are a few similar designs out there available as plans, but here is a production built, outboard powered, lightweight cruiser. Great Harbor TT35. The styling is, well, part of the brand and has its strong points, but the performance is pretty good. 5MPG or so at 10MPH. And it can cruise at 20+ if you need to get across the state line quickly. $250K. It would be a great boat for the 10,000 Islands, gunkholing the rivers and bays of the southeast, the Erie Canal, and the Tombigbee - so most of the loop. Steam: Yes, I'm familiar with the NC styles, I'm a big fan. A boat like that "Carolina Cruiser" with a 25hp diesel should burn about 1/3 GPH at 7 or 8 MPH, so 20MPG. If you figured 300 gallons of diesel for the Carolina motor sailor and 1200 gallons of gas for the power cruiser that's around $1000 dollars in fuel for the first and $4000 for the later on the 6000 mile loop. Not a big difference in overall cost. A friend of my Dad's ran the ICW in one of those large Bayliners from Pensacola to Charelston. Fuel bill was 45K and his wife hated every mile. In Tampa the guy had flopper stoppers installed, but the wife was still miserable. The flopper stoppers only cost another 15K. I'll probably end up with a 10 to 20 year old production sailboat, around 40', for the Gulf coast, East coast and Great Lakes portion of the loop. I grew up in St. Louis and have boated on many rivers and lakes of the midwest, power and sail, and I'd love to cruise through from Chicago to Alabama. That portion of the loop will probably be on a trawler/power cruiser of some ugly design I find cheap on the Great Lakes. My dad had a 35' Christ Craft Catalina on Lake of the Ozarks. Nice boat with brown shag carpeting and a full size home stereo. Something like that would work well for the run from Chicago to Mobile. When in Rome.