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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

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      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. I'm not sure the OP is stating this alone explains it, but it is a part of it. ETNZ has some major design benefits and a bunch of little ones too. They all add up and point to a team leaving no stone unturned.
  2. Hell fucking yeah. Best thing I've ever read on the FP.
  3. All of the above. I've said this in other threads, but the cost to race nationally has grown to unsustained levels. Much as what has happened in amateur bike racing, where many are dropping thousands on coaching just to hang as Cat 4's, putting in pro level time. Sailboat racing is going through the same. Anxious owners who go from one new class to the next thinking if they pay more and better crew, winning will enhance their enjoyment. It doesn't and they leave.
  4. There are 2 parts to this. The first part eas the rum i just poured. The second is the Coke. And then sailinh. Wait, what? No matter. Just sail. The reason why sailboat racing ia dying is because everyone, from racer to race committee treats a beer can series like its a fuckimg workd championship. Just race and ley them race. If the Rc are being dicks, move on. If the racers are being dicks, move on. So much fucking drama over a god damn beer can race!
  5. It's more troubling that winning a beer can race seems so important here. Who the fuck cares? Join PHRF SD for the rest of the summer and be done with it.
  6. Who the fuck knows? And until you and I have a couple million to slap down it's all pretty moot, isn't it? In the meantime i'm going to eagerly watch and cheer on my mates who are making living in part because of these boats. Why? Because boats kick ass, that's why.
  7. A goal of the class is parity. The weight was added to Rio not our of grace but because she rated too fast and didn't measure in. There are only 4 boats so far. Anyone can build a boat from any designer. Just so happens 3 of the first four come from one design office.
  8. But saving money isn't the primary motivator. Building a bad ass boat is. Anybody with the coin can build a fast boat. But a fast biat that fits XYZ parameters is a but tougher. Best of all worlds IMO. Plus, within the box and ORC speed limit there is room to design a boat more suited to offshore than inshore, heavy air vs light. Not to metion it keeps boat builders and designers in business. There are more than 60 TP52's in existence. Sounds to me like its a popular concept.
  9. Everything i've dreamt of doing to one those boats. Congrats, man!
  10. Latest J/Newsletter shows the boat popped out of the mold. Looks like quit the departure from standard J/Boat design language. Very wide in back for a J/Boat.
  11. I put my boat on a stack of pallets. The bow first, finish the work, then the stern. Working beautifully.
  12. Sailing and racing is alive and well in my life. New (to me) boat, family sailing together, traveling to regattas, decent local club scene. These things weren't happening in my life 2 years ago. Maybe I can change the world and bring more people out but there are many trying to do the same thing. It's been posted many times before but when the supposed leaders in the industry start crying about ratings and participation and sell their boats in a fit, that definitely doesn't help.
  13. +1. The successful TP52's in Australia have been the ex ETNZ TP52 for example and ex Azzura. They were both purchased to make way for new gen boats. They were strengthened for off shore stuff etc. I can only guess they would have been in the water for around half of a PAC52? The other attraction with the TP52's is they continue to get faster due to competitive development of the box rule, will the PAC52's enjoy this same development? I think that's the magic of Pac52 that people are missing. It sounds like a place where current gen or just previous gen TP52'S can live a second life and still race level. There may be some mods to fit the different box and rating but might be a cheaper option. -after you plug in a new stick, add new sails and add enough carbon to the structure so it doesn't crack in 1/2? Don't think they'll be many takers there.I don't think the goal is to get old TP 52's to fit in the box. I think the goal is to have a class that will always beat refurbished 52's across the line, but be close enough in rating to get the to show up and play. That's probably the best synopsis yet. It's just talk until I win the lottery. But i know people involved and they're having a blast. I guess that's all that matters.
  14. +1. The successful TP52's in Australia have been the ex ETNZ TP52 for example and ex Azzura. They were both purchased to make way for new gen boats. They were strengthened for off shore stuff etc. I can only guess they would have been in the water for around half of a PAC52? The other attraction with the TP52's is they continue to get faster due to competitive development of the box rule, will the PAC52's enjoy this same development? I think that's the magic of Pac52 that people are missing. It sounds like a place where current gen or just previous gen TP52'S can live a second life and still race level. There may be some mods to fit the different box and rating but might be a cheaper option.
  15. When did i ever say that was the only modification? Go read the rule and study what's been done on the new boats. Reread the thread. Then come back to class. If you're trusting an interweb forum for your info, then you're already lost. Go read the rule and then you can correct me if I'm wrong. I can take it. The rig is the biggest difference however. The motors are smaller and lighter and the keels are different. Many of the IRC52's have the same mods. Spookie is one of them. It was actually spec'd for the SuperSeries before it was modified. The 3 newest Pac52 boats have running rigging above deck to decrease water ingress offshore. Fox has a deck laytout similar to the Med boats. Beau geste is a near sister and probably the only thing stopping them from being a Pac52 is the class dues.