Crooked Beat

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  1. Crooked Beat

    Weeknight Club Beer Can Virtual E Races?

    I think it should be back in Sailing Anarchy - more sailing related than Corona.
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    Online sailing movies

    The Westwind Saturday morning series
  3. Crooked Beat

    Weeknight Club Beer Can Virtual E Races?

    Thank you!!
  4. Our club is looking for creative ways to keep our weeknight races going. It is looking like our upcoming season will be much later in starting if at all. Thinking along the lines: Each skipper gets a boat AND any crew member (whether or not club members) could also get a boat in a weeknight scheduled virtual race. Any other club heading in that direction?
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    I never thought of it as an art form. I am truly humbled. A performance art to state the facts? PHRF-LO is still continuing the same form of "handicapping" this past season, in 2019, as they did, not 20 years ago, but almost 30 years ago. Boats get an arbitrary PHRF-LO hit with no observed performance data to back up the hit. Indeed, it is the absurdity of the rating process demonstrated.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    It may be a whine, but: i) A boat changes their keel: from wing to fin (there are no fin keels of this boat in the PHRF-LO database). Immediate PHRF-LO change for the next season. ii) An old MORC one off boat changes their rudder and mast (height). Immediate PHRF-LO change for the next season. No past data to show a performance advantage in either case, but a rating change for the next season.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    But the PHRF-LO rating was not changed for the first five years following the change. That is the issue.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    Good comments! The perception of equity in how ratings are obtained/assessed amongst all PHRF-LO boats took a big hit when the rudder was "changed". If a boat increases the headsail size beyond a certain percentage, a 3 second penalty is assessed. That is a 1.3% difference. Somehow PHRF can observe that slight change in observed performance?
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    The question is, is the Shark keelboat the only instance of a boat changing and not getting a PHRF-LO change. Or are there other boats that are not so well known? It is not about beating a Shark. It is about equity. Are all PHRF-LO boats treated fairly.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    Thank you for commenting. We hope that PHRF-LO will never again have the situation where a Class/boat (Shark keelboat) changes a fundamental part of the boat (rudder) and NOT change the PHRF-LO rating. While other boats do NOT change any part of their boat and do get rating changes. Perception of inequity and some boats are more equal than others.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    My mistake, the J22, not the J24 is now a Benchmark Boat, not a base boat. https://phrf-lo.org/index.php/about-us/meetings/central-council/661-february-2019
  12. Crooked Beat

    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    I guess we will have to agree to disagree. The Hinterholler Shark class (as opposed to that other twin hulled Shark we have around here) allowed in 1992, to change/modify the rudder. PHRF-LO was aware of the change yet it took 5 years to change (rudder related or not) the PHRF-LO rating. Other boats change/modify and that boat gets a rating change a lot quicker. That was my point: A PHRF-LO boat that has obviously changed did not get a change in rating, other boats would/will get an immediate change. Any other thoughts about the delta or difference (subtraction) between the PHRF-LO J35, J24, J22 ratings? My PHRF rep is indeed officially called the club's PHRF handicapper. He has spoke at length about the Shark PHRF-LO rating going up and down according to the speed of the wind. I guess he is mis-informed. He has also said the the J24 is now suggested to become a base boat like the J35. Words to that effect are on the PHRF-LO website. The Shark is a giant killer in high winds; remember that famous LYRA high wind race across Lake Ontario to the north shore? Ancient history I guess.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    The year the new Shark rudder design came into the class rules, PHRF-LO DID NOT change the rating. I stand by that comment. A boat changes the design and the PHRF-LO rating did not change. While J22s and J24s do not change the boat and their ratings do change. Fact What will be interesting is if PHRF-L0 decides to use a J24 as a Base Boat rating, as has been suggested, what will the rating be? Will it be similar to the North American PHRF rating of a J24? Or will it be a special fast PHRF-LO rating? The J35 PHRF-LO rating is used as a Base Boat. And that J35 PHRF-LO rating is in line with other PHRF ratings in North America. Why is the J35 PHRF-LO in line with other PHRF ratings in North America, while the PHRF-LO J22 and J24 are not? The difference or delta in PHRF ratings between the J22 and J24 and a J35 is quite different from the rest of North America. Shark PHRF-LO ratings seem to ebb and flow. I believe that Shark ratings have also gone up (slower) in recent memory. It was explained to my club's PHRF rep that Shark PHRF-LO ratings change with the overall wind speed of a particular PHRF rating season. If a rating season had low average wind speeds, then the Shark will get a slower rating (the Shark is slow in light winds). If there are relative high winds in a season, the Shark will do better in PHRF and get a faster rating. As we know, the Shark is a giant killer in high winds.
  14. Crooked Beat

    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    There was a change in the rudder design of the Shark. The class rules quoted reflect that change. PHRF-LO was aware of the change in design and yet did NOT change the PHRF-LO rating for a Shark. PHRF-LO appears to favour some boats over others.
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    Can you make a "PHRF cheater"?

    Maybe Hinterholler's last Shark was 1980? But Shark's were produced until around 1990 in North America. A few more built overseas after 1990. There are still huge numbers of Sharks on the Canadian shore of Lake Ontario. My point is that PHRF-LO allowed the Shark owners to change their rudder design WITHOUT taking a change in PHRF ratings. Why would a boat change a rudder design if it were not to enhance safety and/or performance? A "Beam of Destiny" gets a PHRF hit, but a rudder does not?