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    Team UK

    Jim Ratcliffe, who founded chemical firm Ineos, topped the list with an estimated worth of £21.05bn - after coming 18th last year. So it just happened to be an 'accidental' meeting - pull the other one BentA! How much more spin are we going to see from this lot?
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    VOR Leg 8 Itajaí to Newport

    well it's a pity he doesn't directly support some of the smart and up and comings instead of someone that has almost certainly reached the limit of his capabilities. It's great that there are others out there and taking on the Frogs at their own games, but there are some much smarter and younger cookies in the likes of Roberts or Sharp that would better reap the rewards given the sort of extended funding that AT has enjoyed. Its been no secret even from when Mills first took over IMOCA that he had the Volvo in his sights and then Turner went in there to bat for the amalgamation ( and elimination of the perceived competition ) and on it goes. AT is now his mouthpiece to keep pushing that scenario. Good thing or not? I happen to think not. However I also think that maybe the Whitbread/Volvo model has had its day and that the Pay for Adventure races have really taken on the mantle of what it originally was. Sad to see, and btw this is no armchair critic speaking.
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    VOR Leg 8 Itajaí to Newport

    So why does he continue to support a perennial at-best bridesmaid in AT?
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    Team UK

    Spies tell me they've been chopping up and modifying an existing 30' sports boat for the last couple of months, so that can't be far off a splash you'd think. Sooner you get a tester out there the better and find out what the real problems are going to be. damn sure it won't be as smooth a ride as that crappy video.
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    Team UK

    Morality level zero. Environmental concerns zero. Expect to see 'Sir'B on the board next as he fits the mould exactly.
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    Team UK

    well if that crap video was anything to go by then will be same as before, all bullshit and no results. Wonder if they will get paid on results? I sincerely hope the Royal connection is chopped off too, not the sort of shonky biz HRH would want to be associated with.
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    Team UK

    +1 And you do get the A team v the B team mentality issues - and we know who the A team will be lead by even if B team proves to be the quicker one. GB teams have form in this department.
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    Team UK

    Bertelli is at least someone that has some principles, and sticks to them. Also, all the people that worked with him rated him personally very highly. Think of it this way though, two boats=twice as much chance to stuff it up even more than last time. Running two boat programs is a lot harder than doing one and doing it properly, simply in terms of personnel and management. Time is the enemy, not cash. Still, would expect that BA has improved his paypacket a chunk on this deal:) Pity about the eco stuff and green initiatives.
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    Team UK

    Well as far as BenA is concerned money trumps everything else, so to take up with a company that's well known for underhand fracking biz is perfectly OK. But - I reckon this will come back to bite him if Ineos keep on with their normal practices in trying to ride roughshod over the fracking concerns. Frankly though - speaking as a Pom it stinks.
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    Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    Great thing about the Vendee is the human story - one man v the elements - so even the back of the field low level sponsors can make great use of that for their purposes. It's very telling how the crowds turn out for every finisher to recognise their personal achievement. In reality, thats way bigger for the struggling campaigns than the fully funded pro juggernauts and the French do totally get that aspect. You can also still have the privateer who has simply set the race up as his own personal Everest. That used to be the driving force for the Whitbread of yore and was all the better for it. On another tack, the reinvention of the Golden Globe has touched a chord with more than a few, and if they can keep that to it's basic roots I can see that rivalling the Imocas down the line in popularity. Simply because its back to the basics, people can identify with it. And take part.
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    Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    Dead right. But the huge weakness with IMOCA is exactly that cosy little owners group with their sponsors supporting their lifestyles, and so all the time we've seen the rule effectively become more and more controlled to keep out 'the undesirables'. The 60s now are pretty much useless except for doing what they were designed for in the first place. Also hugely expensive and complex, and really can't see the Frogs changing tack in any major way and then disenfranchising the existing fleet. It's that existing fleet that is the strength of the class. The ideas that MT hawked around of changing rig and keels etc on the base platform was cloud cuckoo land, and much as certain members of IMOCA wold love to get their paws into the VOR pudding then it would be a shambles for one side or the other. If not both.
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    Next VOR on IMOCAs?

    You have to really question whether the Volvo, for all it's great history from Whitbread days and onwards, has finally had its time. Right now, its a promotional vehicle that just happens to be a sort of minor yacht race, and keeps a few professionals on a payroll for a while. In the early days it was an adventure into the unknown, it helped develop offshore racing yachts and technology, and was a real challenge to aspire to for all the young up and coming sailors. No longer. Still tough, but relevant it's not. Amalgamate with the IMOCA lot and for a start it will suffer from the inbred politics in that arena and you can just see the resulting camel of a boat that is trying to cater for singlehanded or fully crewed racing. Will be neither fish nor fowl and an uncompetitive 60 to boot. IF Imoca would ever rethink it's whole rule environment then maybe you could fudge something together, but that's not going happen with all the vested interests that are running that class. MT wanted to rule the offshore world and see where that got him, now the incumbent 60 crowd think they'll have a crack at it and no doubt eyeing the $$$$$$$$ they think they could make out of it. It really is time to shake things up though, open up the design race again, and move the game along.
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    AC36 CLASS RULE

    One of the worst written rules I've ever seen, quite apart from the sheer stupidity of many proscribed aspects. But yes, it's the AC...so that's all right then:(
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    AC36 CLASS RULE

    not stupid? Maybe they are, maybe not, but it's very apparent from reading the rule that they haven't actually figured out the rig as yet, and that little tri they launched was a joke compared to what others have done in the past. It all reads as though they've seized on an idea - sensible or otherwise, time will tell - and then have had to try and make it work. Overall, they've tried too hard to do something that was different from anything else or that anyone else has done ( in your dreams boys ) in the past and been locked into a one way path as a result. The biggest thing though is that instead of making this more about the people than the boats, then it's become more and more complex in terms of systems and they have the token monkeys just to provide a bit of power. F1 has gone down that path and is losing it's sporting attraction and revenues as a result. Having a design race is great and should be part of the AC, but then coralling everyone into a single packaged area that might or might not work in practice is plain dumb. Saving costs? That's bollocks, every team will spend whatever time and money it can lay it's grubby paws on. Always have done, always will.
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    AC36 CLASS RULE

    Designed by committee it seems, so they've got themselves a camel. With more than a few humps. Still, sailmakers are going to be rubbing their hands and figuring on their retirement fund on the developmental time needed for the mast/main configuration. But overall you just have to say why? They've killed of all the possible avenues of sensible real down-the-line applications with the restrictions, made hard work for themselves for no good reasons, and costs will be right up there too. Cloud cuckoo land IMHO.