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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  

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    1. Bruce Sutherland

      Bruce Sutherland

      Brilliant  thanks - but sounds a bit of a mess for them.

      Have you got an email for Daryl please - the link is just to the Pontos site?

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  9. Hello Bruce,

     

    I apologise for not answering your email by return and the news is not good.

     

    Pontos as financed by friends and family plus a high level of bank debt needed to finance the development and industrialization of our winches. Unfortunately, because the sailing industry is too “niche” and because of our high level of debt  we have been unable to attract an institutional investor to help us support the very high cost of holding inventory.

     

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    The good news is that our winches have a solid reputation in the market place. For example in the recent Transat Jacques Vabre boats fully equipped with Pontos winches took 1st, 3rd, 5th, 7th, 9th, and 10th place. Quite an accomplishement in not even 4 years on the market.

     

    We know that the French company I mentioned above will make an offer for our assets (now there is no debt), and I fully expect other players to make a bid. I am not sure of the timing, but remain optimistic that production will recommence by next spring.

     

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    PONTOS

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    France

    www.pontos.fr

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    MESSAGE FROM A PONTOS CUSTOMER

     

     

    Customer e-mail address: sailingrp@gmail.com

    Customer message: Hello Darryl,

    It has been awhile. I found this question on Sailing Anarchy which I found disturbing. Please read below.

    Warmest Regards,

    George 



    Bruce Sutherland
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    Posted yesterday at 01:00 AM
    Can anyone shed any light please as there is normally someone who knows out there?



    We are thinking about 2 pontos trimmer winches but have been told by the UK dealer that Pontos has been bought and that there are none.......

    So does anyone know what is going on and when there will be some? 



    Many thanks 


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