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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. So could they have mitigated at the time by taking a penalty as per bay racing? Not having a copy of RRS19.2 or the SI's in front of me. 20.1 BEFORE CLEARING TURNING MARKS Z AND Y. (a) For an infringement of Part 2 of the RRS that occurs after the Preparatory Signal and prior to the boat clearing the relevant seamark (Mark Z/ Mark Y), the Two Turns Penalty under RRS 44.2 shall apply. Yep, that is right, for the sake of two turns they could have been 2nd in IRC div 1 with a good shake at 2nd overall. If you crash with another boat while on port why wouldn't you take the turns just in case. They had to be aware there was a darn high chance of a successful protest and the other boat is always going to protest even if only for insurance purposes.
  2. From Sail World; The yacht Addiction, from the Royal Melbourne Yacht Squadron, has run aground on Easter Sunday morning in the narrow entrance to Victoria's Apollo Bay harbour and has been washed into shallow water. Richard McGarvie and his Inglis 37 crew were returning from Port Fairy, in 30 knot winds and a rapidly building seaway and they sought shelter. The entrance to the harbour faces north and has a reputation for being dangerous to enter with an easterly swell. It silts up, particularly on the east side of the entrance. After talking to local authorities the decision was made that the entrance could be safely made as there had been recent dredging. McGarvie reported a few minutes ago that the yacht was on the leads when he grounded on the sand and at that point she lost way and was washed into the shallows. Mercifully, all nine sailors onboard were taken off by boat and all are uninjured. The yacht is on the sand and appears intact, although she is currently taking a lot of water. From the ORCV Web Site: Addiction is an Inglis 37 that was returning home to Melbourne, having taken part in the Melbourne to Port Fairy race, which had got underway at 0415hrs on Good Friday. Early on Sunday morning, she had decided to pull in at Apollo Bay, so as to get out of the weather in Bass Strait (what a good idea). They checked with the Harbour Master to ensure there was at least 3m of water in the channel at the entrance, which they were assured there was. Coming in on the leads, a system of poles and beacons use to guide you in to a port, they ran aground and lost way immediately. As a result the boat was pushed towards the beach and firmly shoved into the sand. They deployed their anchor immediately and then made efforts to leave the vessel in the "duck" that had come out for assistance. All crew were well and thanked the local authorities for their efforts, who in turn praised the crew for the skills and knowledge in activating their abandon ship procedures. At the time there was at least 30knots from the NE blowing at Cape Otway and the sea would have been up to 3m with a 1.5m sea on top of that. The ORCV has an impeccable record over the last 60 years that it has been running races in the notorious Bass Strait and to Tasmania. It is one the club is justifiably proud of. To that end, there are countless training and safety exercises, procedures and plans that all crews are proficient in, so as to be allowed to race. The positive outcome in this instance, in terms of human injury and life, is testament to this. At 1500hrs on Sunday 04/04/10 she was afloat on the higher tide and inside the breakwater, alongside the quay. The vessel has sustained damage, most notably to the keel bolts that hold the keel to the hull and is to be removed from the water at Apollo Bay for inspection and clarification. She will most likely be brought back to Melbourne by truck for repairs. As such, the port was considered unsafe by the ORCV, who, in conjunction with Bacardi, set about advising other yachts in the area of this fact. This year, the ORCV Melbourne to Port Fairy race raised $1500 for the Good Friday appeal. For the last 30 years, the ORCV has been proud to ask participants over the radio to donate and then collect the money at Port Fairy for sending on to the Royal Children's Hospital. Pictures by Marc Tracy from Mrs Overnewton, out of RMYS. Many thanks to Mary Kay of Smithton Radio, Peter Clancy ORCV Melbourne, Steb Fisher, David Bingham off Mirrabooka, Marty Powers off Bacardi, Marc Tracy and the local SLSC and Rescue authorities for all their assistance, input and efforts.
  3. The question is - is it right for a newbie of only 7 posts to give the traditional Sailing Anarchy welcome of "FUCK OFF NEWBIE". You outrank by 8 to 1. By the way, have you been told? No, I have not yet had the honour... Then consider it done. "FUCK OFF NEWBIE". I'll leave the rest to someone else. why thank you, I am truely honoured!
  4. Heard it right from the skipper of the boat I was to sail on. He'd been called by ORCV, so can only assume its true. It it's not, one boat wont be there...
  5. The question is - is it right for a newbie of only 7 posts to give the traditional Sailing Anarchy welcome of "FUCK OFF NEWBIE". You outrank by 8 to 1. By the way, have you been told? No, I have not yet had the honour...
  6. The question is - is it right for a newbie of only 7 posts to give the traditional Sailing Anarchy welcome of "FUCK OFF NEWBIE".
  7. 5AM Saturday start off QCliff. Brrrr. Last year was so cold it was like being on a chairlift instead of being on the rail. Temperature less than zero at the start. Rug up people. Still 30+ on the bay. Unpleasant night for those who go. Probably ease by morning. Stay safe. I'm not expecting it to get below 21C tonight (in Airlie) Just heard they've canned the race. More to do with the seas than the wind I'm told...
  8. Some suspicious-looking results for Division 3 ... heard that some of the D3 fleet sailed the wrong course (only sailed 2 laps and not 3). Seems that several boats subsequently retired (showing as RAF on results), however it also seems a couple of boats elected NOT to admit fault and retire - which would explain why they won the race by absurd margins on corrected time! Poor form!! By your post you are calling out the winner of Div 3 as a cheat. Have we got this right??? Big call As I understand it a significant protest is being heard on this very matter...