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  1. Seascape D2 aka 14

    Source of this info?
  2. Life Vests?

    NRS makes great PFDs. I really, really like the NRS "Ninja" PFD. Note that local law may REQUIRE you to wear a USCG certified PFD, and you can get a ticket if you don't have one.
  3. Bowman and start line distance calling issues

    So you're basically admitting that you have a skipper problem, NOT a bowman problem. You need to re-train your skipper.
  4. Choate cf 27 where areyou

    I think there's also a sizable J80 fleet. You should seriously consider a J80 over a CF 27.
  5. Craigslist Finds

    Here's a good one: https://maine.craigslist.org/boa/d/flying-dutchman/6297675065.html
  6. how to ruin racing, part 2

    " ginned up accusation from last year"
  7. comentator on 2016 sailing events

    Can you post a URL for that stream?
  8. 2016 Olympic Games

    I noticed that with the mens racing yesterday as well. The RS:X sailors should 'cross-train' in dinghies so they learn how to start, and how to round a mark. Both skills were at a shamefully low level in yesterday's racing. Someone with a strong dinghy background could dominate that class.
  9. what is it?

    Dave Hollom designed 14 from China New Yachts Google Image Search is fun: http://i14vic.com.au/exciting-times-ahead/
  10. Interesting One-Design Classes only sailed in one area.

    Not "Atlantic 30" - it's just "Atlantic". And there are also fleets in NY, and Maine. It's not a 'one location' boat. Etchells are everywhere, not a local to Port Washington.
  11. Seascape 27

    Yeah, I think it did. But I drive faster than I can read....
  12. Seascape 27

    I'm pretty certain I saw a Seascape 27 going north on the Maine Turnpike on a flatbed earlier this month. Where was it going?
  13. i550

    I was surprised to see an i550 going north on the Maine Turnpike last week. White hull, varnished deckhouse, and I believe Ohio plates on the trailer. Was it one of you?
  14. Bad Times in Mobile

    This was just posted on another forum by the guy who posted that video: "Sounds about right. No warning from race committee. We were on a 39' monohull in the second division fighting for what we believe was a large lead over the rest of our division with just one other similar boat. Nearing our last tac towards the finish line, another crew member was checking radar on his phone down below while the two of us were making sandwiches, and he suddenly goes "uh oh.. that doesn't look good." I went above deck to see the boat owner and my father (who was skippering) looking at a nasty black mass of clouds on the horizon and saying "TheCrapIPutUpWith, you might look that way" pointing to the southwestern sky. We started to discuss putting down the sails and that's as far as we got when it was on us... It was maybe 3 minutes from the time we realized what was on the horizon. Suddenly 40-50 knot sustained winds were blowing us sideways. We were on a close haul, so the best we could do was to let out the sails and keep the boat pointed towards open water. The owner had the main sheet and jib sheets in each hand working them like a boss, while my father was wrestling the helm with all his might to keep us angled into the surf. The rest of us were keeping our heads low and looking for life preservers. Visibility was pretty much nill... although one crew member got a brief video from his phone and we realized when viewing it later that there was actually a vessel nearby that we never saw. My father at the helm yelled "what's the in the water?!" (I was only 5 feet from him and barely heard him.) This was during the last part of the storm when hell really broke loose. Winds accelerated to what we guessed was 60-70mph. We looked up and realized it was three guys in the drink with no life jackets sharing only one horseshoe life ring. At that point we jumped up and tried to throw them our horseshoe and other life jackets, but they were upwind of us and the effort was futile. At that point we yelled for my father to come about and start the motor, but maneuvering with the motor would be impossible with the sails up in those insane winds. At that point lightning was flashing, but not going back for those guys was not an option. Another crew member and I sprang up to lower the sales while another started the engine. This is when my fear turned to courage, as I was at that point clinging to a giant lightning rod trying to release the halyards and pull down the main while the other crewman wrangled down the Jib on the bow (we don't use the self-furler as our sail goes down to the deck and gives better lift). We wrestled the sails down and got the jib pulled through the bow porthole and below. I finally got the main doused and another crewman helped pull it on-board and tied to the boom. My father got the boat turned. At this point things started letting up a little. After a few passes we spotted the three still in rough water. It took a bit to get them in the boat as they were pretty weak from fighting. When the storm started clearing we realized a startling reality. We had been pushed sideways basically a good mile or more to only about half a mile from the DI Bridge. We tried motoring back up to Dog River, but even after the storm passed, the current remained too strong. We gave up after 20 mins of basically treading water and motored with the current under the bridge to the DI marina After a couple of hours of sharing stories and recovering from our adrenaline rush, we left the boat there overnight, fetching a lift to our cars. I'm very thankful that even though we did a lot wrong (when we saw those clouds, we should have immediately all put on life vest... also we should have had the main rigged for reefing...), the experience of our crew, a team that has sailed together now for over 20 years on this boat in this race, held us upright and safe. However, I would prefer to never to be on the water during a storm like that again. God be with the families who are missing loved ones right now. I can't imagine the losses they are suffering."