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  1. In following the Caribbean 600 on social media and looking at pictures coming in. I'm a little surprised to see the current owners of the ex Telefonica and Camper haven't sprung for new mainsails by now. Unless those campaigns had extra hardly or unused sails.
  2. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Given the lack of information going out it's hard to know. I have to imagine that despite that VOR and VS11 are doing as much as they can to get ready for leg 6. They're either unable or unwilling to share details. So all we have to go off of are the unsubstantiated claims/reports. I choose to remain optimistic.
  3. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I haven't seen any official updates or photos. All that's been has been reported is unsubstantiated claims/reports that VS11 will rejoin in the leg from Auckland. As far as legal matters I haven't read anything on that matter. Clear as mud?
  4. July 2017 J/111 Great Lakes Racing

    Also worth mentioning on the same weekend J/35 NA's in Cheboygan, MI. 20+ boats expected. Too bad it's looking like I'll be short on time off work for that one. https://www.yachtscoring.com/emenu.cfm?eID=4588
  5. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Agreed. Plus there would have been months more worth of time for training.
  6. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    In the first half hour video segment the VOR posted in the lead up to the start in Alacante they went through all the pre race prep of all the teams. The first team highlighted was Akzo. I got the impression that Tienport had the option for an existing boat or a new boat and he chose the latter.
  7. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I don't think there are many who think having a new boat built made any sense. Certainly when weighed against the opportunity to spend more time training in an existing boat. One only needs to look at the standings to see which teams had the most time with on the water training.
  8. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Akzo wanted a new boat, so they got one. It's not a very exciting explanation, but that's all there is to it. If Volvo could have filled the 8th boat with a team, they would have.
  9. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    A topic I brought up over in the leg 6 thread. OD rules considerations at play plus a team needs to compete in the in port race to be eligible for the following leg. EDIT: Some folks also mention the fact that the ex SCA is for sale, not a problem I would say if there wasn't a sale pending, which I doubt.
  10. VOR Leg 6 Hong Kong to Auckland

    All valid points. I guess since these boats are very close in OD spec that switching boats shouldn't be that big a deal, but rules are rules. Also I would have assumed that after what happened to Vestas in the last edition that the VOR would have had the 8th boat on standby. Perhaps left in a brand neutral color since the 8th boat was overhauled like all the others. Then should the worst happen at least a team could carry on with their branded sails and other gear. To take my crazy idea a step further the VOR could have drawn a contingency to fly or float this boat to any one of the stopovers. But then again another counter to my idea is what if the unthinkable happens twice? What makes the first team to suffer a calamity more special than a second? Anyway my apologies if this was discussed before in the shit show that is the leg 4 thread. Back to your scheduled leg 6 discussion.
  11. VOR Leg 6 Hong Kong to Auckland

    I didn't see anything mentioned in the Leg 4 thread and candidly I've been avoiding it. In regards to getting Vestas back on the water what are the barriers and/or negatives of sticking the old SCA in a cargo plane and flying it to HK? The only thing I can guess is that it's cost prohibitive. I can't imagine it's because of the size and weight of the VOR 65, especially since the heaviest part can be left behind.
  12. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    Being totally honest I made a trade for what I consider a marginal improvement in visibility with vanity and cost. Yellow foulies get filthy fast and despite best efforts at maintenance I was replacing them every 3 years or so. I replaced my first set of black foulies last summer after they degraded to the point where they couldn’t keep me dry. Those foulies lasted me 8 years, I could have purchased a few yellow sets in that time frame. Money spent on updating or improving other safety gear.
  13. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    A while ago I was convinced by others that bright foulies don’t matter, particularly if you’re conscious. This is due to everything other than heads and shoulders being submerged and a bright visible hood is all that’s needed. Even better if you have a life jacket, whistle and strobe, which I normally do. Also if conditions dictate clipped in. Another point made to me was that head and shoulders are most visible to boats in the water. And during the short, critical time of rescue that’s all who’s going to be looking for you. Depending on what part of the world you’re in and what you’re wearing, by the time a helicopter arrives it’s a recovery mission. This is of course predicated on the assumption that you’re conscious when going over. Like a gunfight there’s nothing ideal about going over, prevention and training are the best measure.
  14. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    And everyone has a glass or two of wine, pretty sure work isn't getting done
  15. VOR Leg 4 Melbourne to Honkers

    I don't pay attention to what time they post, it could just be that it's nighttime in Spain.