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  1. Most Valuable Anarchist

    MSG Elle DoRag
  2. Hobart Scene

    A better way to "ignore" is to set up your own website and keep all this foreigner crap off this site. You do know how to do that, don't you?
  3. Hobart Scene

    As a former coach of various teams in Hobart I would agree with you 100%. The weather in Hobart is incredibly changeable and the sailors learn to watch the weather, sail in an area of the river where they can get to safety if required while the coach assists another boat and they learn to be self sufficient. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to translate into youth world champions and olympians but it does produce a group of sailors who can go anywhere in the world and be valuable crew members or indeed skippers (Richard Hewson) of pretty much any boat. Occasionally there are regattas held that really push the boundaries of what is sailable, otherwise the regatta would not be constituted. I'm tipping that all those Optimist and Cadet sailors have come back from Hobart much more capable boat handlers than when they left the mainland before Xmas. Thanks for sharing that. It's always good to keep up on what the foreigners in Hobbarte are up to.
  4. Melbourne Big Boat Fleet

    Actually, he doesn't. Most of the mythical front crap is sent in by foreigners. So no one reads the front page. Simple.
  5. Melbourne Big Boat Fleet

    MSA, having sailed in 35 or so iterations of this event I believe I am coming from a slightly more qualified position than you. I have closely witnessed the evolution of the event since the late 60s and witnessed the more recent steady decline in value for money.The high by any standards series entry fee is just the start; its all the add-ons such as accomodation, food & drink that kill the deal for me. Price gouging in Geelong accomodation facilities is rife even to the extent that many hike their prices and then require a minimum booking of more nights than the duration of the event. Local restaurant and beverage prices mysteriously skyrocket overnight and the hand is out wherever you turn. It didn't used to be that way before the corporate involvement in the regatta when local businesses such as restaurants,motels, hotels, bars etc used to make us all welcome whereas now they see us merely as a captive cash cow. Various organising entities and Committees, and there have been many at this regatta over the years, have, as you suggest, conducted participant surveys and called for sailor input. I have personally submitted my views on more than one occasion and I know well the views of very many others who have done the same. To the best of my knowledge nothing resulting in improvement in respect of what the customers (ie sailors) say they want at the regatta ever came of any of those surveys. I have no intent to "scare off" would be participants here, I don't have that degree of influence anyway and as stated upthread, I really hope those who do go have a great time just I as I did on so many occasions. I am merely stating my own views as to why I no longer choose to support the event after having done so for decades. Make up your own minds people, Caveat Emptor. Although not quite at 35, I am probably closer to 20 appearances and tend to agree with your comments. Love the racing component of this event, but it has become cost-prohibitive for us. Unlikely to see us there this year at this stage, although have to add that cost is only one factor in this decision. With 3 days to go until the end of the "Early Bird" discount of $50 for the IRC Championships, there are 5 entrants on the website - of which 4 are Class A. Could this be an indication of people voting with their feet? So at close of entries (excluding late fee entrants) the total number of entrants for Audi 2013 IRC Australian Championships at the Geelong Festival of Sails is a whopping 18 - down from around 27 in 2012 at Hamilton Island. Interestingly, of the 18 - only 9 are locals... the other half are interstate entrants. I guess this will be interpreted as a raging success (on percentage terms), given there is a focus on attracting interstate participants Also, given divisional splits in NoR, fleet sizes could be: D1: 8; D2: 6; D3: 4. Where are the local IRC participants (eg local Club Marine Series has >50 regular IRC participants) ? Seems they are either: a) not going at all; b] racing in AMS/EHC event; or c) playing in the cruising event. Where are the smaller IRC boats? Probably same answer as above, possibly driven by combination of the entry fee and the format/schedule of the event (?) Does not look good for the future of this event.... particularly in Melbourne. I would think the sponsor could be a little disappointed? Also interesting timing on the announcement of the prizes - one day prior to entries closing... a last-gasp attempt to generate interest perhaps? Thanks for sharing that. Or not. WTF who cares about sailing in Mealborn?
  6. Hobart Scene

    That's good to know. We need updates on this.
  7. Hobart Scene

    Thanks for sharing that.
  8. Hobart Scene

    So, mates, what's happening in Hopbart?
  9. Hobart Scene

    HHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO.........HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM As in, Dude, you really need to try harder.....
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  11. Hobart Scene

    There is a certain irony about DoRag's ongoing tirade against non-US-centric threads... his continued posting repeatedly "bumps" these threads back to the top of the heap, thus achieving the exact opposite of that which he purports to want That all you have? Seriously?
  12. Hobart Scene

    Really? Holy cow! Wowser! WTF?
  13. Hobart Scene

    That's only because you guys are the few who submit articles. Be advised that no one reads the front (or can evebn find it) and teh reason is that no one cares about sailing in your world. Maybe you folks could develop your own site so we don't have to wade through all you BS?????
  14. Hobart Scene

    Thanks for joining the discussion Jeff. In my previous comments I meant no slight on YT in general, nor on the individual board members. I acknowledge my own ignorance around sailing's adminstrative heirarchy but suspect that I am not alone in this ignorance. I appreciate your efforts to keep us informed about ongoing YA technical issues (as a qualified and practising Mechanical Engineer, I chose to bite my tongue regarding what was, in my opinion, some fairly questionable quasi-technical reportage proffered as expert opinion in the abovementioned stanchion debate). All current debate aside, I am genuinely and sincerely grateful to any and all volunteers, you included of course, who give their time to facillitate (my) participation in a sport that I love. The on-going "nanny-fication" of sailing (and of society in general fwiw) is, in my opinions an egregious and unnecessary blight. We seem to be actively discouraging personal responsibility. OH&S legislation and metaphorical firey hoops to jumped through are not, I reckon, and substitute for taking responsibility for our actions, and no amount of legislation will overcome "stupid". Personally; I want opportunities to be educated so that I can make good decisions, not have those decisions dictated to me by "guvmint" or governing body. Ongoing changes have already effectively priced the Sydney to Hobart race out of the market for me, and probably for most average non-sponsored yachties. The L2H is currently, for us (and, I'll bet for others) the only option that we can afford. Any significant further hike in cost associated with, say, re-categorising L2H from Cat3 to Cat2 or with additional OH&s or other arbitrary legislation will certainly price us out of the offshore game period. And while I am happy to take my bat and ball and just go cruising instead, if there are others forced into making similar decisions, it doesn't bode well for the long term health of our sport. For the record, the L2H was a great experience for us. Many, many thanks to all involved, particularly the staff at DSS and TYC and the numerous volunteers without whom such events could not happen. Always good to keep up on what's happening in Tasmania..... Hey, any of you chaps understand that this is a US sailing site? WTF?