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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. MSG Elle DoRag
  2. A better way to "ignore" is to set up your own website and keep all this foreigner crap off this site. You do know how to do that, don't you?
  3. As a former coach of various teams in Hobart I would agree with you 100%. The weather in Hobart is incredibly changeable and the sailors learn to watch the weather, sail in an area of the river where they can get to safety if required while the coach assists another boat and they learn to be self sufficient. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to translate into youth world champions and olympians but it does produce a group of sailors who can go anywhere in the world and be valuable crew members or indeed skippers (Richard Hewson) of pretty much any boat. Occasionally there are regattas held that really push the boundaries of what is sailable, otherwise the regatta would not be constituted. I'm tipping that all those Optimist and Cadet sailors have come back from Hobart much more capable boat handlers than when they left the mainland before Xmas. Thanks for sharing that. It's always good to keep up on what the foreigners in Hobbarte are up to.
  4. Actually, he doesn't. Most of the mythical front crap is sent in by foreigners. So no one reads the front page. Simple.
  5. MSA, having sailed in 35 or so iterations of this event I believe I am coming from a slightly more qualified position than you. I have closely witnessed the evolution of the event since the late 60s and witnessed the more recent steady decline in value for money.The high by any standards series entry fee is just the start; its all the add-ons such as accomodation, food & drink that kill the deal for me. Price gouging in Geelong accomodation facilities is rife even to the extent that many hike their prices and then require a minimum booking of more nights than the duration of the event. Local restaurant and beverage prices mysteriously skyrocket overnight and the hand is out wherever you turn. It didn't used to be that way before the corporate involvement in the regatta when local businesses such as restaurants,motels, hotels, bars etc used to make us all welcome whereas now they see us merely as a captive cash cow. Various organising entities and Committees, and there have been many at this regatta over the years, have, as you suggest, conducted participant surveys and called for sailor input. I have personally submitted my views on more than one occasion and I know well the views of very many others who have done the same. To the best of my knowledge nothing resulting in improvement in respect of what the customers (ie sailors) say they want at the regatta ever came of any of those surveys. I have no intent to "scare off" would be participants here, I don't have that degree of influence anyway and as stated upthread, I really hope those who do go have a great time just I as I did on so many occasions. I am merely stating my own views as to why I no longer choose to support the event after having done so for decades. Make up your own minds people, Caveat Emptor. Although not quite at 35, I am probably closer to 20 appearances and tend to agree with your comments. Love the racing component of this event, but it has become cost-prohibitive for us. Unlikely to see us there this year at this stage, although have to add that cost is only one factor in this decision. With 3 days to go until the end of the "Early Bird" discount of $50 for the IRC Championships, there are 5 entrants on the website - of which 4 are Class A. Could this be an indication of people voting with their feet? So at close of entries (excluding late fee entrants) the total number of entrants for Audi 2013 IRC Australian Championships at the Geelong Festival of Sails is a whopping 18 - down from around 27 in 2012 at Hamilton Island. Interestingly, of the 18 - only 9 are locals... the other half are interstate entrants. I guess this will be interpreted as a raging success (on percentage terms), given there is a focus on attracting interstate participants Also, given divisional splits in NoR, fleet sizes could be: D1: 8; D2: 6; D3: 4. Where are the local IRC participants (eg local Club Marine Series has >50 regular IRC participants) ? Seems they are either: a) not going at all; b] racing in AMS/EHC event; or c) playing in the cruising event. Where are the smaller IRC boats? Probably same answer as above, possibly driven by combination of the entry fee and the format/schedule of the event (?) Does not look good for the future of this event.... particularly in Melbourne. I would think the sponsor could be a little disappointed? Also interesting timing on the announcement of the prizes - one day prior to entries closing... a last-gasp attempt to generate interest perhaps? Thanks for sharing that. Or not. WTF who cares about sailing in Mealborn?
  6. That's good to know. We need updates on this.
  7. Thanks for sharing that.
  8. So, mates, what's happening in Hopbart?
  9. HHHHHHOOOOOOOOOOOO.........HUMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM As in, Dude, you really need to try harder.....
  11. There is a certain irony about DoRag's ongoing tirade against non-US-centric threads... his continued posting repeatedly "bumps" these threads back to the top of the heap, thus achieving the exact opposite of that which he purports to want That all you have? Seriously?
  12. Really? Holy cow! Wowser! WTF?
  13. That's only because you guys are the few who submit articles. Be advised that no one reads the front (or can evebn find it) and teh reason is that no one cares about sailing in your world. Maybe you folks could develop your own site so we don't have to wade through all you BS?????
  14. Thanks for joining the discussion Jeff. In my previous comments I meant no slight on YT in general, nor on the individual board members. I acknowledge my own ignorance around sailing's adminstrative heirarchy but suspect that I am not alone in this ignorance. I appreciate your efforts to keep us informed about ongoing YA technical issues (as a qualified and practising Mechanical Engineer, I chose to bite my tongue regarding what was, in my opinion, some fairly questionable quasi-technical reportage proffered as expert opinion in the abovementioned stanchion debate). All current debate aside, I am genuinely and sincerely grateful to any and all volunteers, you included of course, who give their time to facillitate (my) participation in a sport that I love. The on-going "nanny-fication" of sailing (and of society in general fwiw) is, in my opinions an egregious and unnecessary blight. We seem to be actively discouraging personal responsibility. OH&S legislation and metaphorical firey hoops to jumped through are not, I reckon, and substitute for taking responsibility for our actions, and no amount of legislation will overcome "stupid". Personally; I want opportunities to be educated so that I can make good decisions, not have those decisions dictated to me by "guvmint" or governing body. Ongoing changes have already effectively priced the Sydney to Hobart race out of the market for me, and probably for most average non-sponsored yachties. The L2H is currently, for us (and, I'll bet for others) the only option that we can afford. Any significant further hike in cost associated with, say, re-categorising L2H from Cat3 to Cat2 or with additional OH&s or other arbitrary legislation will certainly price us out of the offshore game period. And while I am happy to take my bat and ball and just go cruising instead, if there are others forced into making similar decisions, it doesn't bode well for the long term health of our sport. For the record, the L2H was a great experience for us. Many, many thanks to all involved, particularly the staff at DSS and TYC and the numerous volunteers without whom such events could not happen. Always good to keep up on what's happening in Tasmania..... Hey, any of you chaps understand that this is a US sailing site? WTF?