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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. The Anchor Point Marina in some of the photos in that link is full this year. The Stamford Landing Marina, also in photos, is more expensive and likely will not be full or even close to it. Stamford Landing is a BLT Marina. The same BLT that tore down Yacht Haven West and is now building the replacement on a postage stamp plot on the patio of yet another apartment complex. The 14 acres that was Yacht Haven West sits empty and BLT is mum on what its intentions are with it. It is amazing what developers in Stamford get away with.
  2. The first Infinity was a Holland 40. Had the B&R Rig, tubular construction, etc. Here's the ad for her: Yachting - Google Books.html
  3. Infinity too. A sister to Regardless? I can only find a shot of the 1983 Holland 47 version of Infinity, a beautiful look, but no where near as successful. A Larry Moran photo:
  4. ODOM
  5. Look up C.A. Marchaj.
  6. The Dyer 10 is a singlehander. And fat slobs like me can still be halfway competitive in them. If I sailed an IC (as I did in my younger days) I would have to find a tiny crew. I grew up crewing in Penguins and I know what it is like to subject a young kid to those conditions. I can remember having to pee soooo bad and when I got to the bathroom I could not unzip my fly because my hands were too cold. This was torture worse than waterboarding in my mind.
  7. The fun stopped in Belmont? The Interclub is the most popular frostbite dinghy today - certainly throughout the Northeast US.
  8. Those are Dyer 10's at Riverside YC in Ct.
  9. Agreed. There is no mention of how many crash boats they had out. We had four at Riverside and everyone was out of the water within a minute or two. Do they think they don't need crash boats? There should be no reason to have to involve Police or USCG.
  10. We had 17 Dyer 10's flip at Riverside, Ct at exactly the same time - about 2:20 pm. About a 30 boat fleet. Everybody was rescued and the boats were retrieved. No need to write an article about it. It was a frontal passage, not really a squall. It blew for the rest of the day.
  11. That's the wrong way to look at it. It's the volunteers themselves that hand out the awards. They are just laughing at themselves. Some of the stories are so funny, you end up pissing your pants. If anyone has any old write-ups from a previous ceremony, post them here. You'll get the idea.
  12. Sorry random, my post was directed squarely at Last Post, not you. This is a continuation from the Opti thread. I completely agree with you that there is a time to jump classes, especially when a kid becomes too big for an Opti, but there are many other reasons as well. LP needs to understand that for every kid who bails out of an Opti there are probably ten that are having the time of their lives.
  13. I know of kids who have been sailing Optis for 5 years or more. Their parents keep them in the class in the hope that they might eventually win something because apparently winning is the only thing that matters! They, the parents, should be horsewhipped for inflicting such cruelty on innocent children. Yeah, sailing an Opti is just so cruel. What the hell is wrong with a kid sailing an opti from the age of 8 til he's 13? You think parents are forcing this on their kids? I don't know what my son could have done to have more fun. He has forged relationships with his contemporaries all over the world that he'll have for the rest of his life. What is it that you think is so wrong with kids training in an Opti?
  14. 2016 I420 ACC's Indian Harbor YC Greenwich, Ct. Oct. 22-23. 20+ knots both days, gusts over 30 on Sunday. 30 boats, 60 kids off the street.
  15. Makes as much sense as blaming obesity on plates & forks. FB- Doug I couldn't have said it better, Doug. My son saw parts of the World that he would never have had the opportunity to see because of the Optimist and its Class. Tell me what Class is going to be able to ship 200 boats for charter to a venue in a few containers and have them available in a far reaching location? Could you have done this with a Sabot or a Bic, sure. But it was the Opti that did it. To sit here and slag the boat because of an attrition rate, please. If your kid can't hack it in an Opti, what other class is going to change that? Any training class with a built in bailer, that doesn't fill up and become un-bailable and un-sailable in rough water which quickly disillusions many kids who find themselves in that situation. Any training' class that doesn't divide the kids up into the highly coached 'good' sailors group and barely coached at all lesser ability sailors who most need the coaching group. Any class that recognises that its actually a training class, not a fucking grand-prix race circuit pandering to the egos of the parents. Parents who keep their kids slugging around in a basic training class for 5 years or more in the hope that they might eventually win something should be horse whipped. That's just for starters... BTW I have been involved with teaching kids to sail in all sorts of boats for 30+ years in this country and others, also driving rescue boats and dealing with the kids at the coal face so allow me to have a bit of an idea of what I am talking about. The Opti phenomenon has only reared its ugly head in relatively recent times (here in Aus) and the numbers of kids who start the programs but are lost to sailing because of it is a major concern in a sport that needs every young sailor it can get to have any sort of future. I will concede that some of the problem is due to the poor quality of the programs themselves, (the Australia wide Tackers Program is an absolute con job but that's another issue for another thread one day) but the poor characteristics of the boat itself certainly don't help. What class would you propose? I can't for the life of me figure out what your problem is. You don't like bailing? The kids loose interest? The parents want to see their kids succeed? Poor characteristics of the boat? What are you talking about? The boat is unsailable in heavy conditions? What trainer is more sea-kindly than an Opti? I think you're talking in circles.