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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. Years ago, in a club race that was twice around, the Committee Boat was a mark. In almost zero wind we barely touched the boat's anchor line with our boom. We get back to the club and find out we are listed as DSQ! I ask why and was told it was because we hit a mark and didn't do any penalty turns. My (at the time) 12 year old son who was crew said that the anchor line is not part of the mark, "everybody knows that", and also what's with the DSQ? The Race Committee reinstated us in the position we actually finished. This was with a well established, very active racing, SoCal Club, by the way
  2. I turned in a shotgun to the police a few years ago. ( It had been sitting in a closet unused for about 20 years and wife hated it, so... ) I called them first because I definitely didn't want to stroll into the PD holding a double barrel 12 gauge. A cop came to the house, had me fill out some paperwork, and took it. Cop was kind of prick, actually, but it felt better knowing that it went there, rather than being sold or given away to who knows who.
  3. The prices charged to members are sometimes less than visitors because they do, after all, pay dues to that club. A different pricing structure for non-members seems perfectly reasonable to me.
  4. I saw the Beatles live in San Diego in '65. It was at the height of Beatlemania. They proceeded to get more creative and important. Of course by '80 they had been broken up a while, but there was always a possibility they could have a reunion. Groups do that all the time. I'm in SoCal and on that day I was on a business trip in Chicago, when I heard the news (today oh boy). I obviously didn't know him personally, but it did affect me. I guess I realized that that period of time, and my life, was really gone and couldn't ever come back. I recently saw "Love" the Cirque du Soleil Beatles themed production in Las Vegas. It was really good, and frankly the whole story and music moved me still.
  5. My wife has had a permit for 10+ years. It was authorized by 2 people with MD after their name ( orthopedic in nature, fused bones, etc. ) but her medical condition is not obvious, and frankly no one's business at all. We notice the occasional looks from people who think they can instantly diagnose what qualifies as a disability, and it can be annoying. I personally think that the person who went to medical school and all that follows is probably more qualified than me to judge someone's physical condition.
  6. PHRF SoCal specifically allows "dual headsais with whisker poles..." in cruising class (appendix D, para. 3.0.c).
  7. Putting out bait and waiting for an animal to walk up to it is not hunting. Real hunters spend time determining where prey would be, stalking the prey, and making a clean and quick kill. This idiot did none of that. When he finally killed it almost 2 days later, he skinned it and beheaded it so he could have a big he-man trophy. This slime ball convicted felon poacher deserves everything bad that comes to him.
  8. Since yours has a wing keel (which I admit I missed), it is at least a '79 or newer, so, yes, it is newer than mine. I'll have to plead ignorance on the wing keel construction. I have had the chance to see several old C27 keels removed from the hulls and they were all lead, no iron, no filler bricks, etc. But anything is possible I guess. The simplest test would be to try a magnet. Best of luck on your repair.
  9. This owner of a C27 older than yours says that you have lead keel. Also, if the weeping is near the bottom of the keel I would not assume it is coming from inside the boat. Do some further investigating before deciding what the solution is.