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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. caption contest

    aquaculture- the new green industry.
  2. Pettit Vivid removal options

    wet sand it with a "water bug" power wet sander- no dust, no muss, big mess however. You need air to power it, and a good hose to supply water, and a lot of sand paper.
  3. Olson 30 vs. Soverel 33

    I have no experience in a 33, but I have owned 2 Olson 30's. In light air and chop or a swell, they're the most fun I've ever had racing a keel boat. It is probably best to be or have been a dingy sailor sailing one.
  4. Heavy #1 vs #2

    I use a number 2 on all the different boats I've owned, although it is much more common not to have one and just go from a #1to a #3. I like a 130 or so % sail because one can tack easier and sail with fewer crew. Also, I like them for just day sailing with a couple people. Back when I had a light #1, a heavy #1, a #2, and a #3, I found myself never using my heavy #1.
  5. blooper time!

    what's the use? Ya can't use digital numbers anymore- guess they were too easy to cut and apply.
  6. Adhesive Recommendations

    epoxy with high strength additive from WEST- it what I use for critical bonding of hardware, but, you need clamping pressure of some sort until it's cured.
  7. East Coast version of a Moore 24

    i forgot the 2 Zap 26 boats on the list, then there's the dingy collection. As far as wives?? ONE was more than enough! Good question Cal20sailor.
  8. East Coast version of a Moore 24

    Well, I've owned 2 Moore 24's, an Express 27, a Santa Cruz 27, 2 Olson 30's, a Capo 26, and a Merit 25- oh yeah, 2 J24's also. If you're cruising round, if you can find a Capo 26 they go upwind really well in any condition, and they were usually really well made and don't cost a lot.( they weigh quite a bit like many MORC boats did) A Moore 24 is the easiest to sail to 100% without a big crew, an Olson can be a handful but will survive anything except a dock in a hurricane and are fun when their bow is underwater downwind, a Santa Cruz 27 is pretty tough, but doesn't do as well with its bow underwater, and has a fairly large safe cockpit, an Express 27 has a bit more room and is easy to sail, I wouldn't like sailing a J24 well offshore due to occasional sinking, Since you don't have a ton of money, that pretty well excludes a Moore and an Express. A J27 would be a nice boat too. I'd read up on people's adventures in long ocean races on small boats- and go with boats that are proven to last. I'd also read up on boat build quality!!! Also, are you keeping the boat in the water? I'd also consider a boat that's not near you, as small boats are easily delivered.
  9. I have a classic 18 ft. whaler outrage- 1986, 1996 engine.  Solid.  Trouble is, I'm across the usa in California.

  10. Killing Puppies

    we used to run water puppy pumps for wash downs , bait systems, etc. They just die regularly!!
  11. J24 foredeck Hatch - Help!

    that's great story!
  12. J24 foredeck Hatch - Help!

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  14. My 1980 chute was a tri-radial. Dark Blue, light blue, white. In 1981, I did sew a tri- radial competitor's chute- it was red, orange, and yellow.
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