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  1. VOR 2017-18

    I think the focus on this subject is in the wrong place, it should be on the VOR management team. Knut changed the face of the race and effectively turned it into a pay-to-play format. Volvo built the boats, equipped them completely and maintained them throughout the race. Each team could turn up with a sailing team and minimal logistical support and get round. Some teams had more backup and resources but it could be done with a minimal team. I got the distinct impression that Knut was at the centre of everything to do with that race. He knew every team inside out, he lived it, and breathed it, and I can understand why he felt the need to step down, there is only so long that you can sustain that level of intensity. Mark Turner is clearly a visionary promoter of large sailing events/projects and I'm sure that his vision would have moved the game forward, but I don't get the impression, from the snippets that I've read, that he was as involved with the operational side of the event itself. I could be wrong and that may be why the wheels have now fallen off the cart. Either way, as the management of this event control so many aspects of it, they should have known that there where problems between Tienpont and Akzonobel and been in there sorting it out. It has clearly been brewing for some time. It is their brand/event that is most damaged by all of this and I don't believe that the shit throwing is anywhere near finished yet. Considering the VOR management team are on record as saying they want to make sure that the sailors incomes are protected through how they contract with the teams, this is clearly a massive fail. Matters like this are rarely black or white, but shades of grey with all sides having made mistakes. From here we can only hope that they all get it together, make sure the sailors are protected & get paid, and make the race a PR success so sponsors will want to support the race in the future.
  2. VOR 2017-18

    might be getting sucked in here but the top quote is Clean's last position the subject of Nicholson querying why he was not on the list. Also the assertion that now one side has made a press release announcing a new skipper meaning that this is all over is nuts. As no one here seems to have had sight of the contracts I strongly suspect that there are a few twists to come yet.
  3. VOR 2017-18

    Unless my Dutch has moved beyond plain rusty the article suggests he got it from Bekking himself.
  4. VOR 2017-18

    http://www.nauticlink.com/nieuwsdienst/2017/10/16/111140363/team-brunel-zou-slordige-2-miljoen-euro-te-kort-komen-om-volvo-ocean-race-uit-te-varen/ You might need google unless you can read dutch. The jist is no panic, talking to several potential sponsors, known from the beginning. All that might be true but seems to be getting late in the day. Where does a €2m shortfall leave them stranded?
  5. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    I was sailing pretty free at the time about 41 twa if I remember with a light wind genoa. Seemed strange, thanks for the tip. Ended up at 5,400 so pretty happy after starting in the 15,000,s.
  6. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    I'm back in having not played since the Vendee. Got of to a bit of a slow start after pointing at the rocks for the first 8/9 hours but back up to 9,000's now. Anyone know why my bezel / ring is red rather than green?
  7. Green Marine DTS

    In scuttlebutt news this morning: * Editor: a note from a reader on the matter: Thought that you would be interested (saddened) to hear that Green Marine in Southampton has gone into receivership. Dutch owners asset stripped it and left it to die. The yard was waiting for some great carbon project they had in the pipeline but it seems like the Dutch had different ideas... It was in the throws of death for a while. Vitters had bought it when they realised that they were missing the boat (!) on composite construction. They have basically removed the knowledge base and tools to Holland and rather than make any effort to make the yard still work they called in the receivers. Luckily, many of the good guys walked out 6 months ago and started on their own www.fibremechanics.com Geoff Stock is the real deal when it comes to carbon.
  8. Paint the foils in a hi-vis colour, preferably orange.
  9. Anyone know what type of sailboat this is?

    Indeed, why would you go to all that effort when for £10 you can get one of these?! http://www.bosunbobs.com/en/Talamex-Clinometer/m-1635.aspx?gclid=COKgg4nlg9QCFc-6GwodD4QBGA&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom
  10. Have a look here for a benchmark on how to restore an IOR era Ron Holland race boat. The result achieved by anarchist FOP is incredible. http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/117372-restoration-ron-holland-ior-racer-flirt-of-paget-2/ Good luck with your project. Thijs
  11. Cheeki Rafiki MAIB report published

    They could always make their own drinks after leaving the dockside and finishing their drinks.

    How is it different from requesting permission from the Race Committee to use a replacement spinnaker for the remainder of a regatta if you've shredded your measured in spinnaker beyond reasonable repair in the time available? At the RC's discretion surely.
  13. Team UK

    I think you've gone the wrong way with your conversion. They will be working in metric so conversion is nearer 1,434 imperial watts or 358 imperial watts per grinder.
  14. Team NZ

    Yeah, noticed the average 87.5kg weight thing and wondered how much that would save on the boat over more typical grinders. Is the say 50kg weight saving significant in terms of these boats? There is a maximum crew weight and everybody wants to be as close to that as possible. If your grinders are lighter, others need to be heavier. It is also worth considering that boats are built to the minimum weight and are then brought up to maximum weight because max weight is faster. Out of interest, I get why max crew weight is desirable but why is a heavier boat faster? Doesn't more weight require more lift and therefor there would be more drag? And if heavy is fast wouldn't you build the boat close to max weight and make the platform as stiff as possible with the extra cloth/resin at your disposal?
  15. Team UK

    Perhaps, behind the curtains, this billionairs family is an active funder for team BAR.800px-The_British_royal_family_on_the_balcony_of_Buckingham_Palace.JPG Not sure about that, they are looking at a £370m bill for refurbishment works to that building alone!