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About ThijsK

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  1. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    I know the numbers aren't important but when was the last time the no/1 VOR player was in the bottom 20% of the leg rankings! Is there no way they can use some routing software to work out the eta of the players and rank them that way? I guess the downside of that is that it may create a sheeplike attitude.
  2. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    Really hope the west I'm putting in pays off because an 18 place leaderboard drop is impressive!
  3. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    Well, off to a reasonable start, position has been up and down erratically but I guess that will settle down. Lets see how long it takes me to make a fundamental error and I revert to my usual mode of catch-up.
  4. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    Thanks for taking this on again. Was doing great (about 1,700) as I was coming out through the straits, then lost phone signal at a crucial point in a meeting and ended up hitting Spain! Lost about 4-5 hours which was gutting and dropped to around 12,000. Back up to around 3,800 as I've rounded the waypoint, so feeling slightly less miffed. Not sure if there is going to be much more opportunity for making gains till we get near the finish.
  5. VOR 2017-18

    I think the focus on this subject is in the wrong place, it should be on the VOR management team. Knut changed the face of the race and effectively turned it into a pay-to-play format. Volvo built the boats, equipped them completely and maintained them throughout the race. Each team could turn up with a sailing team and minimal logistical support and get round. Some teams had more backup and resources but it could be done with a minimal team. I got the distinct impression that Knut was at the centre of everything to do with that race. He knew every team inside out, he lived it, and breathed it, and I can understand why he felt the need to step down, there is only so long that you can sustain that level of intensity. Mark Turner is clearly a visionary promoter of large sailing events/projects and I'm sure that his vision would have moved the game forward, but I don't get the impression, from the snippets that I've read, that he was as involved with the operational side of the event itself. I could be wrong and that may be why the wheels have now fallen off the cart. Either way, as the management of this event control so many aspects of it, they should have known that there where problems between Tienpont and Akzonobel and been in there sorting it out. It has clearly been brewing for some time. It is their brand/event that is most damaged by all of this and I don't believe that the shit throwing is anywhere near finished yet. Considering the VOR management team are on record as saying they want to make sure that the sailors incomes are protected through how they contract with the teams, this is clearly a massive fail. Matters like this are rarely black or white, but shades of grey with all sides having made mistakes. From here we can only hope that they all get it together, make sure the sailors are protected & get paid, and make the race a PR success so sponsors will want to support the race in the future.
  6. VOR 2017-18

    might be getting sucked in here but the top quote is Clean's last position the subject of Nicholson querying why he was not on the list. Also the assertion that now one side has made a press release announcing a new skipper meaning that this is all over is nuts. As no one here seems to have had sight of the contracts I strongly suspect that there are a few twists to come yet.
  7. VOR 2017-18

    Unless my Dutch has moved beyond plain rusty the article suggests he got it from Bekking himself.
  8. VOR 2017-18

    http://www.nauticlink.com/nieuwsdienst/2017/10/16/111140363/team-brunel-zou-slordige-2-miljoen-euro-te-kort-komen-om-volvo-ocean-race-uit-te-varen/ You might need google unless you can read dutch. The jist is no panic, talking to several potential sponsors, known from the beginning. All that might be true but seems to be getting late in the day. Where does a €2m shortfall leave them stranded?
  9. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    I was sailing pretty free at the time about 41 twa if I remember with a light wind genoa. Seemed strange, thanks for the tip. Ended up at 5,400 so pretty happy after starting in the 15,000,s.
  10. VOR '17-'18 - THE GAME

    I'm back in having not played since the Vendee. Got of to a bit of a slow start after pointing at the rocks for the first 8/9 hours but back up to 9,000's now. Anyone know why my bezel / ring is red rather than green?
  11. Green Marine DTS

    In scuttlebutt news this morning: * Editor: a note from a reader on the matter: Thought that you would be interested (saddened) to hear that Green Marine in Southampton has gone into receivership. Dutch owners asset stripped it and left it to die. The yard was waiting for some great carbon project they had in the pipeline but it seems like the Dutch had different ideas... It was in the throws of death for a while. Vitters had bought it when they realised that they were missing the boat (!) on composite construction. They have basically removed the knowledge base and tools to Holland and rather than make any effort to make the yard still work they called in the receivers. Luckily, many of the good guys walked out 6 months ago and started on their own www.fibremechanics.com Geoff Stock is the real deal when it comes to carbon.
  12. Paint the foils in a hi-vis colour, preferably orange.
  13. Anyone know what type of sailboat this is?

    Indeed, why would you go to all that effort when for £10 you can get one of these?! http://www.bosunbobs.com/en/Talamex-Clinometer/m-1635.aspx?gclid=COKgg4nlg9QCFc-6GwodD4QBGA&utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=UnitedKingdom
  14. Have a look here for a benchmark on how to restore an IOR era Ron Holland race boat. The result achieved by anarchist FOP is incredible. http://forums.sailinganarchy.com/index.php?/topic/117372-restoration-ron-holland-ior-racer-flirt-of-paget-2/ Good luck with your project. Thijs
  15. Cheeki Rafiki MAIB report published

    They could always make their own drinks after leaving the dockside and finishing their drinks.