Johannos

New to the family, 40 years after mine was built.

There hasn't been built a serious raceboat in the Netherlands since the ABN Amro Volvo 70's though, and those where built by Killian Busche and his team. Anything built so far in the Netherlands is either quite crude in comparison or has been seriously overweight. But yes, Holland composites is a great company, and might be able to pull it off. An other option is Rondal, they have people experienced with raceboats, but are as a company more builders of rigs and components. The aerospace guys from Fokker and airborne might be a safer bet though, as they have more experience in tight tolerances and quality control. (But could they even build a boat?)

Just the hull with bulkheads in place and deck, which could easily be finished, but it won't be cheap(well, compared to an old pro25). It's already 10 years old by now as well, and the build quality could be better. Building a couple of new ones wouldn't be hard, everything except the keel mould is available.

Yes

I liked the VOR better when people took chainsaws to their keel just to get it measured. Boats finishing seconds from each other, and one of them falling apart not too long after in another leg. There is a lot of good racing going on, but thats not only in the VOR. It was the adventure that I liked. Hope that will come back a bit with the imoca's.

I would think airborne and possibly specto aerospace as well, they have 'claves and clean rooms, and a lot more of the fun stuff needed. Then just fly a bunch of boatbuilders in to put it together. Try to get Killian busche back to NL I would say.

At least one hull was made to have it standard, but that was from a different company who got subsidized, never finished nor sold a boat. Partly finished hull and deck are for sale, as well as the moulds btw.

Yes please! I'm not even started yet! (Don't ever become a boatbuilder guys, lots of cool boats, but no time to sail, let alone build your own boat!) I'll send you an email Dean!

Don't forget Black Betty as delta lloyd. This... I feel the VOR hasn't been about racing for a few editions, just a lot of business. As an event which depends on sponsors, it shouldn't focus on sponsors. it should focus on the sport, or it will become uninteresting for the public, and loose its value for the sponsors. The one design might be good for racing, but it just erased the technical race, which started 2 years or more in advance. The media moments before the race are team announcements, crew announcements, and boat rebrandings. No new designs, boat christenings, build news, etc. For me personally a big loss. The drama is also missing. No shore crews rushing to get boats in the water anymore. I remember people with chainsaws attacking the keel bulb to get the boat measured right before the start, what a story. Boatbuilders flown in from all over the world to repair delaminations, yes even boats retiring from a leg because of damage, or even sinking, that made the race interesting for me, an adventure, life at the extreme. Thank god we have vestas to stir things up a little, the only moments I still refresh the sa forums every ten secons in the middle of the night this last 2 races... And for the fans of the "close racing" look up the finish between abn amro 1 and movistar, still the closest finish in history. So like most of you in this thread, I would prefer to get back in to the box rule racing, The IMOCA class seems to lead the way.

I would say the bow reminds me of a saffier. But I can't imagine them building something like this.

as far I know 2 sets of plans are sold for the 8.5, one to me and one to the usa. I plan on starting soon with the central spine and/or beams, doing the big parts next winter. (i'm currently under contract, building 2 superyacht tenders. I prefer racing boats, haha) I don't know if any are sold of the 40 ft. (I'd be happy to build it, if anyone needs a boat builder ) The 8.5 livewire is essentially designed with lifting foils in mind. I'm now considering Z-boards, but final choice will be a while down the road. Daggerboard cases on my boat will be big enough for c's or z's anyway.

1500 usd for full plans package.

The boat overall has quite a bit of volume. Because it is coming from the 8.5 class, and I wanted something similar, with storage space. Otherwise I'd asked for a large open beach cat. Bow volume is a bit less because I intend to use lifting foils. Probably some small changes will be done. I think the racks need to be longer. You're close Nyker! Build looks good from the pictures too!

Yes, basically. I own an old plywood monohull now, which I use for daysailing with friends. But it's just too inefficiënt. I've build on some pretty cool cats as well the last couple of years, so why not one for myself.

I asked Tony to do this design somewhere in april I believe. I informed about the ice box 8.5 metre design, and Tony felt he could draw up something suiting my wishes better. The design is about finished. This boat is not intended to fit in the 8.5 multihull class. Although it could be build as one. It is not my intention, however. Class seems inactive, and there is no class anywhere near me. It will mostly be used by me for daysailing and coastal trips at the north see. No usable bunks inside, Just a tent over the boom. So far I plan on building mine with lifting foils. Perhaps even as a full foiler. There is interest in building more, and plans are for sale.