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  1. benwynn

    Trumpeachment Part Deux

    Great video. Thanks. Maxine most definitely needs to be impeached for inciting disruption of someone's dinner.
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    Trumpeachment Part Deux

    I thought the raising of the issue publicly was outrageously irresponsible. It basically puts in question to the world whether the US even has any nuclear deterrent capability at all until the 20th.
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    Trumpeachment Part Deux

    Your concern with what EXACTLY is said, when applied to Trump in these situations, is comical. I know it happened quite some time ago, but I was so stunned by it at the time, it sticks in my memory. It is the time you claimed that when Obama was describing John McCain's economic policy using the common colloquialism "putting lipstick on a pig", that it was a direct insult to Sarah Palin. It was a ridiculous assertion, and for me, establishes the bar of your clear double standard. But have at it. It's funny. Back to the subject: It is my understanding that incitement of a riot, including insurrection, does not need to be stated as a direct and clear order to do so. It is a combination of speech, conduct, and intent. The last obviously being the highest bar and most difficult to prove. Trump has consistently claimed to his supporters that he won the election. That he won it in a landslide, and has told his supporters that the election was clearly stolen from them. The day before the electoral college count, an FBI office in Norfolk, VA warned of impending violence: FBI Norfolk reportedly warned that extremists were sharing maps of the Capitol complex’s tunnel system and arranging meet-up points for those traveling from Kentucky, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and South Carolina. “As of 5 January 2021, FBI Norfolk received information indicating calls for violence,” reads a section of the report, according to the Post, which goes on to describe detailed plans for the attack: “An online thread discussed specific calls for violence to include stating ‘Be ready to fight. Congress needs to hear glass breaking, doors being kicked in, and blood from their BLM and Pantifa slave soldiers being spilled.” “Get violent. Stop calling this a march, or rally, or a protest. Go there ready for war,” reads an online thread cited in the FBI report. “We get our President or we die. NOTHING else will achieve this goal.” https://www.forbes.com/sites/jemimamcevoy/2021/01/12/report-fbi-office-warned-of-war-at-us-capitol-despite-claim-attack-was-unknown/?sh=4eef4b61290d Members right wing militia groups, including the Proud Boys had already fought with police before the Trump's speech. The impending violence was entirely foreseeable. It was practically already in motion. To this crowd, Trump stated the following (excerpts, bolding is mine): --------------- All of us here today do not want to see our election victory stolen by emboldened radical left Democrats, which is what they’re doing and stolen by the fake news media. That’s what they’ve done and what they’re doing. We will never give up. We will never concede, it doesn’t happen. You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore and that’s what this is all about. To use a favorite term that all of you people really came up with, we will stop the steal. Today I will lay out just some of the evidence proving that we won this election, and we won it by a landslide. This was not a close election. There’s never been anything like this. We will not let them silence your voices. We’re not going to let it happen. Not going to let it happen. I hope Mike is going to do the right thing. hope so. I hope so because if Mike Pence does the right thing, we win the election. All he has to do. This is from the number one or certainly one of the top constitutional lawyers in our country. He has the absolute right to do it. We’re supposed to protect our country, support our country, support our constitution, and protect our constitution. States want to revote. The States got defrauded. They were given false information. They voted on it. Now they want to recertify. They want it back. All Vice-President Pence has to do is send it back to the States to recertify, and we become president, and you are the happiest people. I just spoke to Mike. I said, “Mike, that doesn’t take courage. What takes courage is to do nothing. That takes courage,” and then we’re stuck with a president who lost the election by a lot, and we have to live with that for four more years. We’re just not going to let that happen. We’re gathered together in the heart of our nation’s Capitol for one very, very basic and simple reason, to save our democracy. We’re going to have to fight much harder and Mike Pence is going to have to come through for us. If he doesn’t, that will be a sad day for our country because you’re sworn to uphold our constitution. Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. After this, we’re going to walk down and I’ll be there with you. We’re going to walk down. We’re going to walk down any one you want, but I think right here. We’re going walk down to the Capitol, and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators, and congressmen and women. We’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them because you’ll never take back our country with weakness. You have to show strength, and you have to be strong. You will have a president who lost all of these states, or you will have a president to put it another way, who was voted on by a bunch of stupid people who lost all of these things. You will have an illegitimate president, that’s what you’ll have. And we can’t let that happen. This is the most corrupt election in the history, maybe of the world. You know, you could go third world countries, but I don’t think they had hundreds of thousands of votes and they don’t have voters for them. I mean, no matter where you go, nobody would think this. In fact, it’s so egregious, it’s so bad, that a lot of people don’t even believe it. It’s so crazy that people don’t even believe it. It can’t be true. So they don’t believe it. This is not just a matter of domestic politics, this is a matter of national security. So today, in addition to challenging the certification of the election, I’m calling on Congress and the state legislatures to quickly pass sweeping election reforms, and you better do it before we have no country left. Today is not the end. It’s just the beginning. We must stop the steal and then we must ensure that such outrageous election fraud never happens again, can never be allowed to happen again, “Something’s wrong here. Something’s really wrong. Can’t have happened.” And we fight. We fight like Hell and if you don’t fight like Hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore. we’re going to walk down Pennsylvania Avenue, I love Pennsylvania Avenue, and we’re going to the Capitol and we’re going to try and give… The Democrats are hopeless. They’re never voting for anything, not even one vote. But we’re going to try and give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country. -------------------------------- Trump said these words to a crowd that included people who had already fought with the police that day, and people who the FBI claimed had intel and maps of the capital building including underground tunnels. He told these patriotic Americans, who would consider one of their most sacred rights is that of their vote, that the election was clearly, and without question, flat out stolen from them. Given the context of the crowd, and the context of these words, I cannot fathom how anyone would not see this as a clear call to violence. Given your documented ability to "read in" to what people "really mean" when they say something, this should be easy for you. Frankly, I think it IS easy for you. But this time, it's Trump. It's back to exact words for you. Granted, the law often looks to exact words. But on the whole, I believe we have the words, the conduct, and the intent. i think there is little question about it.
  4. benwynn

    Trump officially worst president ever.

    Hillary got 3 million more votes than Trump. I wonder if that makes her "gooder".
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    Trump officially worst president ever.

    You are obviously on to something. Maybe the GOP can find someone even fucking worse to run in 2024, getting even more Republican votes.
  6. benwynn

    The Corner

    Home Owners Association It's a neighborhood where rules are established and enforced by members elected by the residents. Like having specific paint colors you can use on the exterior of your home and limits on how long the blades of grass in your lawn are allowed to grow. Back when I was doing some utility engineering, I would have to attend HOA meetings on occasion. Sometimes I would get pushed to the back of the agenda and have to listen to resident complaints. I always considered it an achievement if could make it through 30 minutes without quietly getting up and going out into the parking lot to kill myself.
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    The Corner

    Because nothing says good neighbor like somebody forced to be one under threat of fine.
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    The states as a laboratory

    Stay on track: Democrats are Bad. So sayeth this graph.
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    The states as a laboratory

    Nice to see Dog getting away from the myth of voter fraud and back to his mission of national division. When a child sex ring operates in the basement of a pizzeria, is it just a coincidence it's in a blue state? I don't think so!!!
  10. benwynn

    How Serious were the events of Jan 6, 2021

    I was commenting on a specific situation, not a policy. If I were in the situation some of those lawmakers were in, I'd be praying for a fucking gun.
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    How Serious were the events of Jan 6, 2021

    One of them is dressed like a fucking buffalo and is not eating unless the jailers serve him organic food. Just sayin'.
  12. benwynn

    How Serious were the events of Jan 6, 2021

    Oh... I am most definitely in.
  13. benwynn

    How Serious were the events of Jan 6, 2021

    At the very real risk you will dig up something I said 15 years ago, I agree. In that position, I would want a gun. Not to go out hunting to end the event. Just in case the office I was in was breached, to make the point that the intruders should find an easier office. Hit the search engine, it's spelled "benwynn", and happy hunting.
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    How Serious were the events of Jan 6, 2021

    Only if I get a sword, whistle, and a baseball cap with a cool embroidered logo on it.