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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. Thank you guys for posting. I just bought a little tubby trailer-sailor cruiser called a Tangerine 18 which will be my comfy, slow cruising boat, now I'm looking at the scow as my all our racer. I do understand that the rig, most fittings, and rudders will most likely need to be replaced, just need to see if the hull is worth it. I'm also assuming the hull will need a little work which in willing to do but I'm walking away if it's completely rotten. Going to look at it tomorrow so I'll let you know how it goes.
  2. It's been three long years since I've done any sailing and I'm ready to get back in the boat. An old M-20 that has been converted to an I-20 has come up for sale in my area. It's an interesting option as by brother lives in Washington DC where there is a semi-active fleet. The boat is a 1968 and still has an aluminum mast but does have a sprit and is ready to go. I understand that we will probably not be competitive but what should I look for when going to see the boat? The boats I've owned include a laser, 420, Interclub, J/24, and most recently a J/29 but I've never owned or sailed a scow and know very little about them. Anyone have any advice, insight, or recommendations for this potential scow newbie?
  3. the 30' range is no man's land in the boat building industry. I don't think anyone who likes making money would consider making a 30' boat. These days, no one wants a 30 foot boat. Since the mid '80's the market has polorized to the Mid 20's and mid 30's leaving 30' behind. its just too big for some and not big enough for others. I'd take a good look at whats on the used market and go with that. I have sailed against an Andrews 28 and it looks cool but I think its because it looks a little off. the freeboard is way too high for a boat that size. Not the best competitor either. Looks like a OD 48 that someone cut 20' off the cockpit.
  4. Boat looks great, looks like a winner to me. Besides the "J Hater Nation" that is sailing anarchy, I think the number of hulls already ordered is a true testament to J Boat's ability to make a great boat, don't think the new sydney 37 will be able to match it's numbers in sales. That being said i am a little disapointed that the finished product wasn't the radical change in direction for J Boats that many people were expecting. I thought they would step out of their comfort zone and actually produce a hardcore, lightweight, T-bulb keel racer but it ended up being another 36ft cruiser/racer in their lineup. The 111 is too similar to the 109 and they will cannibalize each other's sales.
  5. Don't know the full story as I heard it second hand from someone who sailed on the boat but Mr. Mossop, owner of the Club Swan 42 "The Cat Came Back" was hit by a car years ago while helping someone change a tire. He was in a coma for a long time and apparantly when he woke up all he remembered was a cat hence the name of the boat and the black cat on the spinnaker.