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  1. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    Not going to happen. I am not sending my sister on that mission. I doubt she would even agree to do this; she's not the adventurous type. I am too disorganized and busy with ongoing projects to take this on. Who is going to be Rimas' ghost navigator? Who is going to take on the daily task of tracking him responsibly and guiding him through dangers? You know he's going to nag you to arrange concierge service everywhere. Nope. Not my circus, not my monkey.
  2. Sailing around the world in a San Juan 24

    My sister and her husband are visiting Saipan in a few months. I told her to look for Rimas and Mimsy and included a couple of photos, including stripy blouse and captain's cap.. I told her if she was feeling generous to give him a $10 Starbucks card.
  3. East facing Harbors SO CAL- Time to leave

    I caught a whiff of forest fire smoke in Burlington today. I just thought someone was over-zealous with their fireplace. Then I thought, "I'm in the middle of a shopping district! There's no homes here..."
  4. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Kind of this. Vague references of an order of events with no dates. Incomplete descriptions of damage with poor or non-existent photos.
  5. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    So she did but given Jennifer's misapplication of various boating terminology, I think it doesn't pay to scrutinize her words too closely.
  6. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Remember Sayula's headstay? Like that.
  7. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Yes! These guys got a good groove goin' on!
  8. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Holy shit! You a Groovenaut?
  9. GPS

    Garmin 76 if you can find one. The "improved" Garmin 78 is not improved. The 76 is robust and has long battery life, unlike cell-phone solutions with typically MUCH shorter battery life. Plus you are married to a charger whereas with the GPSmap 76 you just pop in a couple of fresh AAs every 24 hours or so.
  10. Will the lifelines and stanchions be easy to remove? The Congressional Cup Catalina 37s realized much less damage in close match racing when they started derigging the lifelines for top tier events.
  11. Sailing a frac rig under jib only

    I'll just drop this here...
  12. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    God knows I've met a few of those! And then there's the leader of the free world...
  13. First boat at age 50

    T and J, I like the fact that you will dedicate some time to just maneuvering around in tight spaces, learning how to get the boat into the positions you want. Too often I see fairly experienced sailors who basically refuse to practice. A couple of pointers: sailboats coast in reverse much better than they power in reverse (generally.) A good technique is to build up a bit of speed (like a knot), then shift into neutral and do your steering while coasting backwards. When the situation gets tense, there is a tendency try to do too much at once so practice how you'll fight and fight how you've practiced. After you feel confident with doing it under power, you can practice on doing it under sail. It's a whole different set of problems. Another tip: sailing in tight quarters will be easier with just the main up because you will have better visibility and less strings to worry about. But sailing under main alone can trip-up a lot of otherwise good sailors. For one thing, the balance of the boat will be wrong and the boat will try to swing dead into the wind, especially if the main is sheeted too tight. Take a tip from the dinghies and don't sheet the main to the centerline; sheet the end of the boom nearer to the lee rail when trying to sail to windward without a headsail. That one trick will help a lot!
  14. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Another point re: Clean's interview: Psychopaths are generally pretty quick on their feet and can adapt to the situation of the moment (until they can't adapt, at which point you need to avoid being murdered.) So you need to avoid cornering her. Like others have said, approach this with a collaborative attitude, not an adversarial one. Also, I feel that a lot of the weirdness of this story stems from Jennifer knowing enough about sailing and the sea to know what she WANTS to say but can't quite find the correct phrasing--freezing-up under pressure. A lot of her stories stumble semantically and I think it's important to have her clear up her frequently obscure semantics. For example, when she says she thought they would die within 24 hours, I thought of how a boat behaves when it's being forced through the water at what? close to double its hull speed? How the towed boat would yaw and jerk around with the tow line momentarily slackening only to abruptly snap taut, upsetting those aboard both physically and emotionally. So some appropriate questions would be, "While you were being towed by the fishing boat, do you feel you were being towed too fast? How was it affecting the action of your boat through the water and your comfort on board? What do you feel might have been your cause of death in that circumstance?" There are a lot of instances in her reports that are ambiguous and need to be cleaned up, especially if she is thinking about a book or screenplay. There are multiple ways to interpret a lot of what Jennifer has said and I think Clean's best service would be to get past the cumbersome semantics and focus on the meaning of what she has said and written so far. I would prepare for the interview by printing out everything she's said so far, with dates, then red-line everything that needs clarification or reconciliation.
  15. Two sailors and dogs rescued after 5 months

    Of course she seems cool; all psychopaths appear cool or otherwise compelling. Theodore Bundy got his victims to willingly come along... to their death. Jim Jones did so too.