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  1. Macif / Gabart / Jules Verne 2017-18

    There's a SAR operation in the south atlantic, will it affect his course after rounding the cape.
  2. Perhaps someone felt touched by too much criticism? Or there was something very intelligent posted that we did not notice and someone did? Nah discard the latter...
  3. Thanks!!! Verey informative (although I didn't catcha a word) Really, I'd always wanted to know how an VPP was made. Thanks again.
  4. Pardon me, I do not want to start a discussion about it. But I guess your known amateur sailors, capable of buying one of these, are more than average sailors.
  5. Gitana Maxi 17

    HB and Comanche lack the Gitana speeds. Kite foilers don't manage forces involved in Gitana. IMHO not comparable.
  6. Well Lars that's what I was meaning with "semi pro sailor" not precisely getting paid for. To sail one of those you need practice, time on the water, training. That means time, and time is money, that's what I was trying to say. The word "every day sailor is tricky", or ,that is what it really means, able to sail every day. Not everyone is able to do that. (I'm not complaining lucky for those who can)
  7. Gitana Maxi 17

    Perhaps it's not the only cause, but it's very meaningful where the damage is worse (trailing edge and bend). Perhaps it is not happening in the other boats you mentioned cause circumstances are different, and they don't add up. Guess we will never know for sure. One thing that always drew my atention is the noise the foils make. Noise is one of cavitation syntoms (that's what I've heard, not that I'm a specialist)
  8. One thing is for sure, it's not for an every day sailor. You've got to be semi pro at least
  9. Gitana Maxi 17

    You can fool someone all the time, you can fool everyone for some time, but you cannot fool everyone all the time. Guess that foling in a long distance race is the same.They can run simulations, tests, whatever , but it will always be a compromise solution. IMHO forces involved are unpredictable. Surely they 'll come around the issue, but at what cost? Heavier? Less aerodynamic profile? More drag? Faster on optimal conditions? Slower in normal ? Will it pay in the long run?
  10. Gitana Maxi 17

    Dalton said they checked the foils every day with ultrasound cause they were on the limit
  11. Gitana Maxi 17

    Very good explanation (imho).
  12. Gitana Maxi 17

    Ok Dougie, we've got the point. Stop posting the same thing on every thread. The history will tell Sodebo won, Gitana came in second, you will have to live with that. No one of the gitana crew is saying they would have won, you are the one implying that. Gitana probably will win TJV some day, but not today, no matter how much you post about it. If, If, If... If my sister had balls would be my brother.
  13. Sodebo foiling

    They definitely are not foiling... they can't because they don't have the first in the history of mankind firearrow foiling system
  14. Gitana Maxi 17

    Gitana made a course error, Phaedo didn't?
  15. Gitana Maxi 17