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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. Please PM me info on the boat if you're still thinking of letting her go. Thanks, Dan
  2. I will be moving up in a year or two and am thinking about a Sabre 425. The prices actually seem lower on average than the older Sabre 42s. Anyone know why that is? Maybe aesthetics with the higher freeboard?
  3. Unless I've been completely out to lunch for the past 15 years, anchors are mandatory by PHRF Ches Bay. Is that not the case in other regions?
  4. That keel/centerboard arrangement is nearly identical to the Nightwind 35, also designed by Bruce Kirby. I know from painful experience that Nightwinds are very fast off the wind and point well. There were only 14 built and three live in a small creek near Yorktown, VA.
  5. Flicka, Cal, and Moore are all good recommendations for your parameters. Sound miserable, but fit. Also look at the Wilderness 21 - not many built but seem similar to what you want. I think you'd be best off with something like Contessa 26, which are very seaworthy, cheap, plentiful, and have at least minimal comforts.
  6. Anyone have any experience with it? Thinking of trying it this year as a cheaper alternative to Vivid. Can't find any reviews online though. Any insights are appreciated.
  7. The bitching described on the front page is not my experience. Folks where I sail generally accept PHRF for what it is and just enjoy the sailing...it's really not much of an issue. Maybe that's because most of the boats are older with well established ratings. Either way, get over it, or take up golf.
  8. Did this boat get sold?
  9. FWIW, two whack jobs took a J80 transatlantic a few years ago and documented it in a blog or article somewhere. Made for fun reading and should still be online.
  10. I am very sorry to hear that. I only met him once, 7 or 8 years ago when we both owned Olson 25s and I stopped him on the dock at HYC to ask for some tips. By all accounts a true gentlemen. About 18 months ago, I bought the Pearson Flyer with which he won High Point many years ago and am slowly bringing her back into shape. Was hoping to bump into him again this spring, when I move the boat from Yorktown to Hampton. My sincere condolences to his family.
  11. J40 has 5' draft and is quick for a cruiser with a 90 rating or so. I race against one frequently and it points very well. J37c could work too.
  12. Thank you both for the feedback. I do race and have a Pearson Flyer currently. Looking for something with a cruiser interior to move up in a couple of years. I know deeper draft is generally better but have seen some shoal draft boats kick some serious butt. I race against a shoal draft J40 regularly and he points as well we do unless it's really light. Need to try to get a ride on an I34-2 at some point.
  13. I've always really liked these boats but the standard draft is a little deep for my marina. Does the wing keel kill her pointing or is it still decent?
  14. I have a similar problem - need to install new transducers and am trying to figure out what adhesive/sealant to use. I'm looking at either 3M 4000 or 4200. 4200 seems like what everyone uses, but 3M says its not compatible with some plastics and 4000 is compatible with all. For those that have done this, have you installed plastic transducers with 4200? Thanks, Dan
  15. I'm putting new speed and depth transducers in my boat. The crappy old through hulls, one of which was actually leaking slowly around the gasket, were flush, but the system I bought has mushrooms (Raymarine i40). I removed the old ones and dry fitted the new ones, and now I'm not sure I can use them with the way the openings are now - the cavities that would remain above the thru hulls seem too big. Has anyone installed mushrooms over the wider openings from flush thru hulls? I know the simplest thing would be to get flush thru hull fittings but there don't seem to be that many out there, especially for remotely reasonable prices. Other options would be to fill the cavity with caulk, somehow fill the expanded openings (thickened epoxy?), or glass them over and start fresh. Any suggestions? Thanks, Dan