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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Defender
  2. Oh oh, the V word....but I'm doing it, stripping, any minor graft work, and re-coating w/epoxy, then the V. This is strip built, right? No glass on inside but some on the outside of the hull? Was the engine located under the cockpit? Is the shaft still in place? I've got another low hours Volvo 2002, but a few thousand miles away ;-( What are the rig dimensions? Are they the same as Pretty Penny and the Shadow (BTW did that ever sell?). The hull and deck look amazingly fair for about 45 years old. Best of luck to you, and keep the pics coming. Rob (oh fuck, I used my real name, hope I don't get banned....)
  3. Bump! How 'bout some pics, Black Jack?
  4. If you've got the wallet to have, feed, and sail an Elan 410, you've got the wallet, if you keep nose to the grindstone, to go to someone and commission a real light air killer. I'll let everyone else opine as to whom, but I'd give it to Doug Peterson.
  5. Black Jack, Good on 'ya for buying her. One of the more interesting aspects of this series of boats is that they're relatively early wood/epoxy cold molded boats and they've lasted remarkably well. At 40+ years and lots of neglect the hulls and decks are sound, try that with cored glass and polyester. Maybe I need to repatriate my boat to SF-"split to the coast and get my head together"-through the ditch in Panama, and we can have a class regatta....
  6. Ok, going to try to place a link to a video taken on Lake Champlain at the end of the delivery of Free Run north. We eventually hit an 11.6 knot surf.
  7. Sorry about that, just looked at one of your earlier pics and noticed there was no stern extension. Wonder if there originally was? Here's a pic of it on The Shadow:
  8. Buck, Thanks for the picture. Interesting that the galley was forward. Were there settes/berths aft, and no quarter berths? Another feature that was eliminated in the rebuild was the transom extension or "back porch". I'm thinking of replacing it, would you have any pics of that? Thanks, Rob
  9. You must be the current owner of PP, thanks so much for joining this thread. That's also the location of the engine in my boat. I assume PP has been repowered? I installed a low hours Volvo 2002, 18 hp, which has proven to be a great engine for the boat. One of the differences in my boat vs. the rest of the Chico class is that when it had the keel and rudder change it was lightened considerably, to about 7800#, keel being about 3400#. I talked with Hank Easom and he said the original keels were 5000#. The rig was also pushed up to an "I" of 41.5', and "E" to about 12'. At that point the original interior was replaced. I've gutted the replacement interior and am going to install a more comfortable and liveable interior. Do you and Buck have any pics of the original interior and input as to what you'd change? One of the things I'm going to do is remove the seats from the cockpit and raise the sole. The new cockpit will be the same length and width, but the seats will be an extension of the aft side decking. This will provide a lot more room in the quarter berth area. Thanks again guys for your response and I hope to hear more. Rob
  10. Buck, Awesome, this is some of the history I really wanted to see. My boat, formerly named Lickety Split, Now Free Run (I'm a winemaker), had a radical keel and skeg ectomy in the early eighties. Hopefully Wmalloy382 has some more info on that. Is the engine in Pretty Penny on top of the keel or under the cockpit?
  11. Hey Buck, Thanks for those, got any more? Rob
  12. That would be fantastic. BTW, the pic in my avatar is your boat going north in the Champlain Canal. A few days later, we got the chute up on Lake Champlain in about 25 knots of wind-hit an 11.6 knot surf. It's a pretty cool boat, especially considering its disp and heavy rig. I repowered it with an 18 hp Volvo diesel which enhanced the reliability under power factor. My goal is a minimal performance cruiser, as I've got my racing fix in progress on another boat. Any info you've got or can get from your dad and uncles will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rob
  13. Slow? It was considered a hot boat when new. I think you're thinking of the wood proto Trilogy designed by Norton, that was sailed in the western sound. It weighed in at about 4600 lb, by the time Tartan got through with it the actual weight was pushing 6000 lb. PHRF of the T26 around here was 210. Rob
  14. My dad had a Tartan 26, slow, but a great little ship. Standing headroom, inboard, kind of a galley, a real head, and four decent berths. It's draft was about 5'. Typical crappy 70's build but willing. We sailed it in everything and it lumbered through. Interestingly, as I've graduated to bigger, faster. and "better" boats, I've always compared their comfort and cruiseability to the humble old T26.