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  1. Defender
  2. Oh oh, the V word....but I'm doing it, stripping, any minor graft work, and re-coating w/epoxy, then the V. This is strip built, right? No glass on inside but some on the outside of the hull? Was the engine located under the cockpit? Is the shaft still in place? I've got another low hours Volvo 2002, but a few thousand miles away ;-( What are the rig dimensions? Are they the same as Pretty Penny and the Shadow (BTW did that ever sell?). The hull and deck look amazingly fair for about 45 years old. Best of luck to you, and keep the pics coming. Rob (oh fuck, I used my real name, hope I don't get banned....)
  3. Bump! How 'bout some pics, Black Jack?
  4. Black Jack, Good on 'ya for buying her. One of the more interesting aspects of this series of boats is that they're relatively early wood/epoxy cold molded boats and they've lasted remarkably well. At 40+ years and lots of neglect the hulls and decks are sound, try that with cored glass and polyester. Maybe I need to repatriate my boat to SF-"split to the coast and get my head together"-through the ditch in Panama, and we can have a class regatta....
  5. Ok, going to try to place a link to a video taken on Lake Champlain at the end of the delivery of Free Run north. We eventually hit an 11.6 knot surf.
  6. Sorry about that, just looked at one of your earlier pics and noticed there was no stern extension. Wonder if there originally was? Here's a pic of it on The Shadow:
  7. Buck, Thanks for the picture. Interesting that the galley was forward. Were there settes/berths aft, and no quarter berths? Another feature that was eliminated in the rebuild was the transom extension or "back porch". I'm thinking of replacing it, would you have any pics of that? Thanks, Rob
  8. You must be the current owner of PP, thanks so much for joining this thread. That's also the location of the engine in my boat. I assume PP has been repowered? I installed a low hours Volvo 2002, 18 hp, which has proven to be a great engine for the boat. One of the differences in my boat vs. the rest of the Chico class is that when it had the keel and rudder change it was lightened considerably, to about 7800#, keel being about 3400#. I talked with Hank Easom and he said the original keels were 5000#. The rig was also pushed up to an "I" of 41.5', and "E" to about 12'. At that point the original interior was replaced. I've gutted the replacement interior and am going to install a more comfortable and liveable interior. Do you and Buck have any pics of the original interior and input as to what you'd change? One of the things I'm going to do is remove the seats from the cockpit and raise the sole. The new cockpit will be the same length and width, but the seats will be an extension of the aft side decking. This will provide a lot more room in the quarter berth area. Thanks again guys for your response and I hope to hear more. Rob
  9. Buck, Awesome, this is some of the history I really wanted to see. My boat, formerly named Lickety Split, Now Free Run (I'm a winemaker), had a radical keel and skeg ectomy in the early eighties. Hopefully Wmalloy382 has some more info on that. Is the engine in Pretty Penny on top of the keel or under the cockpit?
  10. Hey Buck, Thanks for those, got any more? Rob
  11. That would be fantastic. BTW, the pic in my avatar is your boat going north in the Champlain Canal. A few days later, we got the chute up on Lake Champlain in about 25 knots of wind-hit an 11.6 knot surf. It's a pretty cool boat, especially considering its disp and heavy rig. I repowered it with an 18 hp Volvo diesel which enhanced the reliability under power factor. My goal is a minimal performance cruiser, as I've got my racing fix in progress on another boat. Any info you've got or can get from your dad and uncles will be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Rob
  12. Slow? It was considered a hot boat when new. I think you're thinking of the wood proto Trilogy designed by Norton, that was sailed in the western sound. It weighed in at about 4600 lb, by the time Tartan got through with it the actual weight was pushing 6000 lb. PHRF of the T26 around here was 210. Rob
  13. My dad had a Tartan 26, slow, but a great little ship. Standing headroom, inboard, kind of a galley, a real head, and four decent berths. It's draft was about 5'. Typical crappy 70's build but willing. We sailed it in everything and it lumbered through. Interestingly, as I've graduated to bigger, faster. and "better" boats, I've always compared their comfort and cruiseability to the humble old T26.
  14. First, let me answer my own question, it's a typical '80's "Petersonesque" keel with a huge rudder. Still would like to see a pic of what she looked like before the '83 redesign/rebuild. I bought this boat yesterday, for about what a new genoa would cost. It's structurally good, lot's of weird old school raceboat gear, and a tree of a mast. The interior furniture is pretty awful, not original, a quick plywood "funktional" job. Won't feel guilty feeding it to the woodstove this winter. The intention is to put her on a diet and introduce her to racing in this century. If anyone has any history or info, especially about the redesign/rebuild, I be interested. Let me know, Rob