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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.


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  1. I have been using Marlow exclusively for my projects for the last 10 years and could not be happier. In terms of price, service, and product they check all the boxes. Otherwise Maffioli is a close second.
  2. Do not buy rope with blended cores. That is the problem with t900
  3. Just wait. You will be 100x happier for it
  4. I think the point is that you could have bought 2 mod 70 for 3 million and per year running costs would be the same when you consider how many less guys you need.
  5. I thought this was sailing anarchy... Get a fucking grip. I have sailed around the world on an IMOCA 60, and never once even thought about clipping on. What ever happened to personal responsibility? Why is Seb not allowed to do as he likes without judgement being passed from the peanut gallery? What is irresponsible about it? His sponsors certainly do not think so, or they would not be building him a 100' multi. THe continued pussification of the world just lets government exert more and more control over everyone; soon there will be no races like the Vendee because they will be deemed not safe enough, and shortly thereafter we will all be working for the government machine and not allowed to even go outside.
  6. If it helps, for most of this race, out of curiosity, I've run routings for HB using VO65 polars (directly from FYD) and IMOCA15 polars (from virtual-loop-de-mer) and every time the IMOCA15 polars have gone farther and reflected reality way better than the VO65 polars. In other words, it seems the VO65 is slower than the fastest IMOCAs. This was confirmed; the singlehanded skippers in port la Foret were happy to let Dongfeng come out fully crewed to train together. The imocas always won.
  7. I'd like to hear Ryans comments now regarding to balls that Vincent didn't have. Maitre Coq praise comes next to this and as explained by Ryan, no other team had cuts to install down-tips. I think they made it too heavy to benefit from foils. Jeremie has been without weather data for at least 2 weeks. (Among other problems. ) That explains quite a lot. Pretty sure maitre Coq is not heavier than anyone else...!
  8. This is the 100% best option, and the cheapest
  9. you need to glue every bit of surface down
  10. no one is doing this. not one person in the fleet of 29 boats. i am certain.
  11. I was there the entire time and the numbers are not fudged. You have to see it to believe it.
  12. This is a story that goes back to at least the Japanese AC entry (Chris Dickson helm) so many years back. The engineers put a red light at the base of the mast. It meant: stop. But to the crew it soon became, can you get it lit 3 seconds after a tack, or does it take 8 seconds. Human nature. Look at the videos of these boats, loads on foils, hulls, rigs vary wildly. IMHO strain gauges will only be of use to know the state of play when something broke. As an engineer, I am all for that, if I can get my hands on the data. Unfortunately, the way of the world is that for every answer, there are immediately 10 new questions. I think the (Bragg grating) glass optical fibres are still in the laminates, but the equipment to measure strain and to log it will not be on board for the race. Some have it some don't. For sure some have taken it off for the race. It is true that the easy way is to measure deck spreader cable tension. Alex has strain gauges all over the boat.
  13. He had the same sail as mitch 4 years earlier. It was no secret. Others just preferred to take a code 0. Bad decision on their part, but no secret.
  14. The foils help all the time. If you retract the foil upwind in 10 knots, the boat heels over about 5 degrees more. In terms of getting clear of the water it depends on the angle, but in about 15 knots beam reaching the boat will sit on the foil doing 18 or 19 out of the water to the keel.
  15. Doug, I use the term foilers to differentiate from the boats with normal daggerboards. That's it.