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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

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  1. We should all learn and try to remember we are guests when we visit another club. We are never "customers". There is a great difference between a guest, a member, and a customer. There are also the circumstances where one may be an uninvited guest and specifically invited guest. Their club, their rules and their home customs; no different than visiting the home of another as a guest. Here are some basics for the socially challenged. Always be nice. Never allow your presence to interfere with the hosts normal routine. Never ever criticize your host in any way. The guest must always be courteous, kind, and pleasant to everyone.
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  3. Yacht with motorized launch:
  4. A yacht is a properly outfitted personal vessel that may or may not be used for racing. A personally owned POS is a boat. Most MACGREGOR 26M would fall into the boat space. The vessels put over the side of commercial whaling ships to chase down the whales were boats. One yacht: Boat
  5. You guys are going way to far into the weeds. A regatta or series either allows paid help or it does not. If a person ends up being paid to be on boat in a race that does not allow paid help. The boat, owner, and skipper cheated. No different than running the motor or filling the keel with mercury(yes rich guys have done that). Cheating is Cheating! Sailing and every regatta has a way to deal with sailor who prematurely and intentionally cheat. Use those rules. If you must have each winner and each crew from winning yachts sign a statement saying they were not paid in anyway. Wanting to shame a few owners. Give out our own awards in the bar. The Torn Sails or Paper Cup Awards for the boats with the highest payrolls. We all know who has paid help on the boat, The only question is how much and when are they paid. A rule that allowed clearly for a single paid coach on the boat. A fairly paid teacher who did not steer or touch the trims would be a plus for our pastime.
  6. If the owner is not sailing with his friends there certainly is a reason. You do not have look long to find the Dr. Laura's and many other paying people to sail with them or sail the boat for them. Sailing is one of the few sports where the owner can actually ride. You cannot ride your own race horse or even be on the field as an NFL owner.
  7. Almost completely about the owners isn't it? If money tap turned off problem gone. It is hard to cheat without the owner and skipper/helmsman involved. The others on board are just friends of the hired help for the crime.
  8. No, but it is a valid point. Let me explain. Up here in Ventucky we have had an MIR who not only has been a past area rater for PHRF but has sailed boats, for owners, with gift ratings, going out and cleaning up and not feeling the least bit disturbed. These boats have suffered rating slams that have denied owners to be able to sail them to their ratings because they are not pro's. Luckily I was able to buy one of these classes on the cheap, fix it up replacing almost everything and go to PHRF too show how the ratting was unjustly slammed. We now have a competitive and fun boat. It was not easy. Recently a friend bought a Mumm/Farr 30. a design from the 90's for pro's of the era. It seems that PHRF has never looked at this rating again. With the new Sprite boats out, the Farr Mumm 30 has an RLC and Off the wind rating that is almost un-sailable. I looked and there are several of these boats in So Cal that are sitting. Pro's destroy local sailing unless they actually help the locals learn how to make their boats faster. The pro sailors have destroyed so many boats ratings that some boats are not race-able by the rest of the sailing public. This is why really good boats fade away. On another note, I would love to race against some pros and show them they are not invincible. Get a Star Boat and travel to a few regattas and show us all how it is done.
  9. Hiring a pro sailor to race with you in PHRF is like hiring Trey Flowers to play for your team in your local flag football tournament! Putting a skilled pro on the boat to coach and even call tactics can be of real value to the entire crew and the sport. The key is to force the "pro's" into that teaching and coaching role. That starts with zero tolerance for the paid help touching the trims or helm. "Teach a man to fish".
  10. See NCAA Football. ESPN and others have entertaining documentaries on the history. On many campuses DIV I sports have become a full time job that comes with at least food and housing. Look around you will see schools with Football Practice at 10AM each weekday. There are some good excuses there. But, that is when real students in real programs are in class. If you want to cheat in sailing just run the engine. Fuel costs much less than sailing with people you do not know or like.
  11. If the regatta is labeled open or pro. Anything goes. Otherwise... Limit the every crew to one paid person on one person from the industry. No two sail-makers on the same boat. Anyone paid or with any commercial relationship with the boat cannot touch a trim or the helm. The paid help is there to coach or teach. That is how you grow sailing.
  12. Heat = Energy.... Energy = Heat. Not going to happen. All the energy packed on the boat is for food or people fuel. Food value is measured in calories. The same with energy.
  13. Maybe you can show me one? But, I have never witnessed any workable emergency rudder solution for a boat with a thru hull rudder on a stock. Some with cassettes maybe. But, the ones where you are supposed to rig a spinnaker pole and a floorboard lashed on? That is never going to fly in a seaway. In this case the mom wanted off, the CG told the mom to get off. That was the end of that. The Dad tried to stay. The Dad could not get any control over the boat. I am just surprised something small on the bow along with dragging shit behind would not let the trades take him somewhere in the caribbean for a tow. He got off when he fouled the prop with a line and damaged the main in a gybe.
  14. Does any of the brain trust have any ideas why the rudderless boat could not be brought under any type of control. Control that would have gotten them close enough for a standard tow to any island?
  15. PLEASE SAY A PRAYER FOR RAINMAKER'S new CREW of Kool-Aid drinkers. May they not run out of cash nor come to their senses before the last yard boy is paid. Has there ever been a refit that made economic sense? This one is epic! Void Ho!