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  1. A New Solo One Person Dinghy - Brainstorming Thread

    Hmm, interesting. I think some makers have come out with a 'do it all range' such as Topper with its Topaz range? RS came out with the 100, which for a hiker is a very comfy boat and great with the kite out. I just wish it had a trapeze option because going upwind was so slow, coming from an RS700. Yeah I know I ought to stick with the 700 if I like upwind performance, but I did like the 100's simplicity. A trap option ought to be included imho. A Kite option is a no brainer for me. Foiling option? dunno. I have looked at the F101 Tri in the UK, hot looking boat that looks fun without having to foil. Whichever way, boat manufacturers have thier work cut out. Not so much cash to be thrown around these days. I would only hope that the appeal of sail will always endure. Quite like seeing some of the pimped up craft out there.
  2. Moving up from a Hobie 16

    H17 Doesnt do that well with too much weight though does it? Otherwise for a solo cat it looks a lot of fun
  3. Moving up from a Hobie 16

    Hobie Wildcat maybe? will be a bit pricey though.
  4. RS700 Newbie Video

    Yep, pop the sheave pin out, you will need a shackle thats fairly 'deep' if thats the correct term. I got so fed up with the sail losing its tension, especially when the wind was starting to pick up.
  5. Kiter Passes Away Friday on Alameda

    I learnt on my own, I had to becuase there is no kite school in the place I live. I started with a 7mtr which was idea for messing about with in not very strong winds. I learned to self launch and land and eventually got riding...after many many hours of figuring it out. I would cover as much 'what if' scenerios as you can. With kite size I always maintain that if you struggle to walk to the water with the kite in the air then its size for that given wind speed...is too big. I have had some close calls, one would have seen me killed outright if I had been on land at the time. I got 'lofted' and landed on my head/neck. My ears were ringing after I landed like this....I was very very lucky. kiting isnt to be taken as some safe sport. I still kite but am very choosy on the wind and tide state. There is plenty of good days to kite, dont kite if you arent sure...you need at least two kite sizes, 3 even if you can afford to.
  6. RS700 Newbie Video

    Awesome...reminds me of when I first started out on the 700. I had a lot of previous time on a Laser Vago, solo trapezeing and using the kite etc. You might want to consider two things, I should lock the top of the main sail. Mine had a habit of dropping down a few inches which lost any downhaul or cunningham? (as the USA calls it) which is totally crucial in depowering/opening up the top part of the leach. Its no ordinary sail, think windsurfer sail I tip my 700 on its side and tie off the sail head to a shackle that i used to replace the sheave pin, I use thin dyneema cord. 20 ltr float bag, maybe tie one of these to the sail head? I have no safety boat and a lot of kelp along the shores of my area. Keeping the 700 on her side so she cant possibly invert is a great comfort. Yeah it looks sissy, and i lose a knot or two going upwind but for me its just plain common sense. Keep your trim, going upwind...step up forward, get that leading foot right up next to the shroud, keeping the bow down. They are good boats, I tried out a musto skiff while on holiday, had a huge smile as I zipped up and down the bay (Menorca, Fornells Bay) took very few minutes to get use to the layout of the musto..and drew some admiring looks from others...some puzzled as I dont look like a skiff ace
  7. Hi there, been a while since I posted on this part of the site. Hobie Cat 16, been a while since she last sailed, tramp is getting a bit tired out. I got some really strong fishing type net (really small mesh size, strands are easily para cord thickness) was wondering on a neat and tidy solution to using this. Any ideas? I cant quite justify £500 sterling for a proper one. No, I don't race..tis the only Hobie cat in my part of the world. Was wondering if I can utilise the bolt rope areas on the frames...though might just lace over these parts? Cheers Rob
  8. Hobie cat 16 Trampoline options...

    Hulls are in very good condition, have poked and prodded the areas mentioned and they are sound. Question, I am not happy paying 400+ pounds sterling for a Trampoline...any UK based places that make such a thing for the Hobie? Rudder uplock/downlock cams at 40 odd pounds EACH!!! screw me sideways...one bit of plastic costs that?
  9. build and sail a small scow?

    For your first ever build I would keep it simple. You could add the wings later maybe? Either way, building your own boat is a special experience. You only need some basic carpentry skills and a willingness to learn how to use epoxy resin etc. Ply 'stitch n glue' methods vary but will result in a good build if you get the basics right. Plenty of hints and tips on YouTube I would have thought. My first build was a Kit, a 'Mirror' dinghy. I wont ever forget that first voyage, a very special time:) My second boat was a Wharram 'Hitia' 14 Catamaran, again this was a unique experience and the skills it taught me (as to how cats behave) laid the perfect foundation that applied to a Hobie 16 which I now own. Thoughts? hmmm....if I could have done anything different on either the Mirror or Hitia. The Mirror could have done with a basic Assymetric Spinnaker system maybe. I sailed solo so the classic symmetrical spinnaker would have been a bit tricky on my own. The Hitia Cat could have done with its Beams being made from alloy mast section (small yacht type mast section) this would have made a much lighter all up weight. A mesh trampoline would be more comfy than the current ply deck. What I am saying is keep the build simple but explore the options to keep the craft light and comfy. The Moth scows look fun, reminds me of the 'Topper' scow dinghys (plastic hulled, very common in the UK sailing schools at one time) Don't skimp on the sail and rig, get the best you can afford. Don't be tempted to make your own sail. Proper sails have built in camber etc and behave in a certain way when secondary controls are tweaked. In fact the sail and rig will make up over half your budget for a build, on a guess. Been a while since I built my two projects so figures are a bit hazy. Ply stitch and glue/glass covering etc methods open up a whole realm of projects. Its a good method and leaves you with a craft that's light for its size and is easily fixable should you prang the boat Have fun!
  10. Hobie cat 16 Trampoline options...

    Hulls are good, as far as I know. Which parts should I Be looking at? she was built in 91 and hardly ever been used. Previous owner kept crashing the thing along with inexperienced crew. I bought it all for £1200 sterling I might just go with the stitch the net onto the tramp thing for now....the newer mesh type tramps look to be pretty well made.
  11. Hobie cat 16 Trampoline options...

    Wondering if slugs can be made? hmm, I got some S/S tubing that might just be small enough to slide inside the tracks. Would love the proper tramp, but its going to be pricey enough to replace the standing rigging and trap wires. Shes an old boat and been stored outside all these years so would be a good idea to get the wires changed.
  12. 420 vs 505 for beginner

    420 might not so bad...have sailed two up on a Laser 1 on many occasions
  13. 420 vs 505 for beginner

    my second boat was a Laser 2, there was no way I would have been ready for that without time with my first boat (Mirror). The Laser was like a rocket in comparison. I learned on my own, so no benefit of instructors let alone a Club. Buying an unsuitable boat is a sure disaster, if not financially it could put you off sailing for life if you have a nasty experience. It takes a while to learn the basics, yeah you can pick up all this in a weekend etc etc on some 'zero to hero' course. The reality is that it takes a lot of time to pick up the finer points, plus learning to deal with emergency drills; which should result in a safe and responsible crew. I once taught a guy who had bought a Laser 1. He turned up wearing some outdoor jacket and matching trousers. After a brief discussion on the pitfalls of such attire we went out (it was a light breeze day). On returning I discussed in no uncertain terms that he ought to get a wetsuit etc as Lasers are quite flighty boats...plus to NOT go out on his own as he wasn't ready to do so. What did he do? goes out on his own and had a near death experience. He sold the Laser and didn't bother with sailing again. Totally silly of him. I would go to a Club, join it and get some time on a modern dinghy, one fitted with an assymetric spinnaker and get some serious learning under your belt. My route was quite pricey to the RS700, the Vago I had used for training was sold at a huge loss...had no choice unless I wanted to keep it the rest of my days..which I didn't as it had gotten too boring to sail. Get that time on the water, then if you are sure its an activity you cant live without ...maybe then you can sit down and really think about what you want out of sailing, and which boat will tick the boxes?
  14. 420 vs 505 for beginner

    Having an Assymetric Spinnaker is a must, imho, for whichever dinghy you go for. Once you start playing with these you wont want to go without. Such a huge range of boats, hopefully you will consider the advice and start with something a bit less technical. For what its worth, well from what I noticed, some of the more modern boats don't have that many strings to tweak in order for them to be performance craft. I was mightily impressed with the RS800 as an example.
  15. 420 vs 505 for beginner

    I would go to a Club or even a sailing holiday such as Menorca sailing (mentioned before in this thread) I have done the Menorca thing because it was way cheaper to go there and try out some boats that I had always wanted to try. Cheaper than buying a boat only to find I would hate it, if you see what I am saying. Menorca sailing have a good variety. The RS500 might just tick the boxes for you. If you are a learner I would go the Laser route and nail the basics. I saw Keelboats being mentioned in this thread. I would still go the basic dinghy route if I were you, it can only give you a good appreciation of your weight and balance. Get the basics learnt and these will apply to all manner of monohulls, while applying to multihulls too in some aspects.
  16. Holy Crap! I own an RS700!!!!!

    Just realised, check out YouTube and look for 'RS700 a pimping guide'. Really good points on a few extras to make life easier. Not sure if some 'pimps' are class legal. RS site/association has some good guides. Pay attention to the lower stays...it would pay to fit Stamasters(?) these are adjustable calipers which makes for fairly easy adjustments on the water.
  17. Holy Crap! I own an RS700!!!!!

    Awesome!! I have the same type...all the way down south in the sunny south atlantic (well I sail in a secluded harbour:) ) Points to consider...if I may Trapezed before? I would go find someone with a double handed trapeze dinghy, and get some time as crew and let them hand the helm to you so you get a feel for it. The 700 is not a beginners boat, this isn't to bust your bubble so bear with me..... that mainsail and mast track are not the toughest. If you capsize and end up falling on the sail? you will trash it most probably. The Track is quite robust but its bonded to the mast....you must AVOID landing on that sail...period. I learnt to solo trapeze on a Laser Vago, heavy plastic hulled 'wannabe 29er' looking boat. A very strong boat and an ideal skiff trainer, some will disagree but if you can handle a Vago then the 700 is a piece of cake Like I said, get some trap experience if you can. What you will find, while messing about in light winds (and applies to heavier winds too) changing tack, the 700 can get caught in irons. Ease off the vang! she will come about then. I spent some frustrating moments when I first hopped onto mine and went zooming across a lake...ended up gybing most times until I finally got the idea. Downhaul, this is your friend in higher winds...crank it down hard...top of the leech will open up...I much better handling boat is the result. It might be obvious but such tweaks are crucial on this craft. I really enjoy the 700, I tried out an RS100 some years ago...the whole hiking thing just bores me to death now. Kite, like others said...get it out and get used to it. I don't always trap with the kite as the wind can be a bit sketchy in my location. You can cheat it and just hike out on the racks. All in all, they are good boats. Very refined and sensitive to tweaks on the vang etc...its pretty cool, just crouching in while on the wire and 'dialling in' the best settings to keep her flat and fast. I hope this wasn't a lecture, I can drone on a bit congrats on the buy
  18. the Skiffs I mentioned wont be easier? I beg to differ. I learnt on a Vago which was a real handful in a good wind. The 700 was a piece of cake in comparison, being designed for solo operation. You got extendable racks on the 700, along with 'granny' bars if you need that extra step out onto the rack. I would give one a go, musto or 700, and see how it feels.
  19. Musto Skiff or RS700, they are the two I can think of and recommend. I have sailed the Musto, nice tough boat with no nonsense layout. I own an RS700, bit more user friendly compared to the Musto, bit more in the way of control lines and has a 'pump' system for launching and recovering the spinnaker (which is an assymetric spinnaker, so easy to use) I removed the pump system, found it a pain in the arse and I don't sail to club rules as there aint no racing to be done.
  20. cheap self tacking jib rig?

    all I did was pass the jib sheet through the clew. The pulley was a waste of time, made no difference to how the jib set. I still had to reach forward and tweak the jib to get it to set right with a nice draft. Interesting about the rigid foot thing, that would easily solve the setting issue but I liked the fact I could furl the jib in seconds if needed. While on the Vago subject I noticed the downhaul/Cunningham was a bad design. Worth revising if you aren't sailing to class rules, which I never did...having the only Vago for many thousands of miles around, or even in my quadrant of the southern hemisphere:) I liked the Vago, darn tough boat and ideal for training on for better and lighter boats such as the RS700. I sold my Vago, took a while to sell and had to drop the price enough to make it go. Bargain as the new Dacron sails were basically new. The XD main being a bit tired out...it was never an ideal sail anyway. Not sure why such a sail was placed on such a heavy plastic boat. Another point, if solo, is the vang adjuster on the thwart. Its not a bad design but I should tie some bungee cord from gooseneck, come down to the top of the vang adjuster pulley block (which is sitting, upright between mast foot and gooseneck) tie off to the pulley block. Voila! one nice positive feedback for the vang control. I found that while hooked on and crouching in to adjust the vang I kept having to snap the line back into the cleat...and ruining the adjustment I had just made. A major pain in the arse, but easily fixed. One last point, tie off a line from the top of the centreboard, bring it back to the stern and tie off to the hiking strap points...leave enough slack. If you invert the Vago and the board pivots back into its slot because the bungee has snapped, you will struggle to get the board back out. Vago being quite wide its not nice to have to reach under to grab the boards horn. You can then get to the stern and pull that line...board will pop back out.
  21. From windsurfer to Dinghy.

    yes, the shipping. I paid about £1400:00 on the freight (UK to the Falkland Islands) but that's a fact of life for me. The trick I found was to buy as close to the shipping port as possible, seller being more likely to deliver the boat for free. Having the boat on a combi trailer was a bonus too, being a 'wheeled item' this was cheaper on shipping due to the ease of handling for the guys stowing the thing on the ship.
  22. From windsurfer to Dinghy.

    I bought my 700 for £2750:00 pounds sterling in the UK. So yes, they can be found at a nice price.
  23. From windsurfer to Dinghy.

    I wouldn't be too concerned about speed ( reading a post on comparing sailing to windsurfing) I kitesurf and while its great fun and fast I know the 700 isn't as quick, but it doesn't matter...its still a very special experience.
  24. From windsurfer to Dinghy.

    Right...don't listen to any nay sayers. If the RS700 is your dream then go for it, I own one so realise the learning curve you face. I would, if I were you (because this was my path) get to learn basic sailing in a Laser. Get comfy with it and learn all the basic capsize recovery etc etc. Then you want a tough little boat like a Laser Vago. If you can learn to solo trapeze on this then the 700 is easily within your grasp. I learnt on my own, and enjoyed the time too. Some of the best times ever for me. I would resist trying the 700 from the get go, its a fairly delicate boat and you really don't want to spill it and end up landing on its rig...the mast track could easily get torn from the mast and the sail could end up with a massive hole as well. Its a lot to take in, but well worth the effort....trust me You could bypass the Laser (Laser 1 btw) and try a hiking boat that's kitted out with an assymetric spinnaker. Much easier to learn spinnaker handling on a hiker, but then again I tend to hike on the 700 when doing this as the wind can be so awkward where I sail...on a good day I can get out on the wire and point a bit higher and get the speed up (because that's what its all about) Not sure whats available where you are, in terms of learning to sail (which you will learn quickly being a windsurfer) maybe some time out as crew on a double handed boat that has trapeze? least this would get you going
  25. What's the hardest dinghy you've sailed?

    Laser Vago, you wouldn't think it but what a pig to sail solo:) I learnt to solo trapeze and handle a kite with this boat. So darn heavy and slow but the skills I learnt were mighty handy when I got an RS700, didn't take long to get dialled in. Got caught in irons a few times till I sussed out what to do.