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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. 6ft is shallow? Anyone capture pictures of the interior by chance? Some interior pictures of the prototype. Will change to 4 berths and slightly smaller heads in serial production. Thank you. Interesting layout. I'm guessing that the keel trunk is bisecting the interior? Some compromises there, but some utility too. Where is the 4th berth going to go?
  2. 6ft is shallow? Anyone capture pictures of the interior by chance?
  3. Ya - I was quoting the base boat price of ~$78K US (69K Euro). Figured most folks would add sails and electronics locally. Still, compared even to something like a Schock Harbor 25 this is a bargain entry price. Wheels would be easy enough to do away with, and would likely result in lower cost/complexity. High freeboard necessary on a smaller boat to get any sort of interior volume (a la Andrews 28). The lines are a bit unconventional with the reverse sheer, destroyer bow, and slab sides with chines -- but I actually kinda like unconventional and the entire package looks good to me (eye of the beholder). As to import cost, best case would be a local dealer network with scalable import volumes to keep cost down. It's a cool boat, hope they do well.
  4. Sleek new 30 footer with carbon spars, lifting bulb keel, vinylester construction and some cruising potential for under $78K, and nobody is talking about this boat? Damn we are a tough crowd.
  5. It's actually a much prettier boat that the 27, IMO.
  6. Another very cool, lovely and fast boat that will never be available in the US...
  7. 'Please do not press this button again.'
  8. Other than that, they are identical...
  9. Seems that we have to resign ourselves to the fact that we will never know what this 'it' is...
  10. Revamped and relaunched Andrews 28? (I can hope...)
  11. Nice looking boat, and I appreciate the innovation and the size. Seeing more details just makes me miss the Andrews 28 even more though...