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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.
    • B.J. Porter

      Moderation Team Change   06/16/2017

      After fifteen years of volunteer moderation at SA, I will no longer be part of the moderation team. The decision to step aside is mine, and has been some time in the works but we did not wish to announce it in advance for a number of reasons. It's been fun, but I need my time back for other purposes now. The Underdawg admin account will not be monitored until further notice, as I will be relinquishing control of it along with my administrative privileges. Zapata will continue on as a moderator, and any concerns or issues can be directed to that account or to the Editor until further notice. Anyone interested in helping moderate the forums should reach out to Scot by sending a PM to the Editor account. Please note that I am not leaving the community, I am merely stepping aside from Admin responsibilities and privileges on the site.

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  1. Safran and Groupe Bel were the first VPLP/Verdier boats, at a time when the big names were all going with Farr designs, so it can change quickly. I think that a lot of the professional teams and sailors follow the crowd. That might be a part of the Figaro mindset where risks are rarely rewarded, and the optimum strategy is to cover your rivals. Then again, Alex Thomson proved that a different design can be fast, and had Hugo Boss not lost a foil, he might have won the Vendée Globe. That might encourage different opinions next time round.
  2. There has been talk of running the VOR in IMOCAs before, and I think that it was considered as an alternative to the VOR 70. I recall it being rejected because the focus of IMOCA is on single-handed sailing, whilst the VOR is crewed. That would mean the boats wouldn't be identical, and ultimately not be able to swap between classes. If the VOR does go with an IMOCA style boat, would that mean a smaller crew? The biggest cost on a campaign tends to be staff, and reducing numbers would reduce the budget required.
  3. Francis Joyon set the singlehanded round the world record in 2008 without carrying a diesel generator. (Source: Sail-World) The article says he used solar panels and a wind generator. I've got a feeling that there might have been a methanol fuel cell too, but I can't remember for sure. Joyon ran a comparatively simple comms set-up, in fact I recall he just used an Iridium phone to download weather data, and the IDEC trimaran didn't half a canting keel, both of which saved on power consumption. I'm surprised it wasn't done sooner, Joyon proved it could have been done two races ago, but I think that the class rules might have played a part in it.
  4. That's right. Alex thought that going with the most powerful of the previous generation would have been the fastest option in the last Vendée Globe. Didn't work out for him in the end.
  5. And your brother won a Hugo Boss sail tie off Alex Thomson Racing. I'm down in Australia these days. I'll have to keep an eye on your brother's progress if he ends up that way.
  6. He wants to stop off at Sines for some of the local black pork.
  7. Alex Thomson is using the Raymarine Quantum. I don't know about other boats.
  8. I figured it'd be a fast start, since Sodebo set off today.
  9. I heard a comment that some are predicting a sub seventy day winning time this year. If that happens, it'd be faster than Ellen MacArthur's 2005 record, which was set in a larger trimaran.
  10. According to the Vendée Globe skippers page: This is the case for Nicolas Boidevézi who, having taken the decision to withdraw, has freed up the place of 14th entry. So number 14 wasn't Enda, though he might have inherited that space. Assuming Richard Tolkien is out, and it's not looking good for him right now, then there are twentyfive skippers with places, two free slots, and four entries that could make the start line. Conrad Colman Didac Costa Enda O'Coineen Jean-François Pellet I don't know what state Pellet's campaign is in. According to Sail World he's signed up for the NY-Vendée.
  11. I wonder if the registration process has been left a bit vague in order to give the organisers some wiggle room to get the big names in. If it was done by qualification date, then someone like Conrad might make it in ahead of (say) Alex Thomson. Were I to run a low budget Vendée campaign for 2020, I'd be aiming to get the boat into the 2019 Transat Jacques Vabre, which would mean being ready about a year earlier than some people are. Of course, talk is cheap, and finding €100K or more for a campaign that's struggling to get funding would be rather more difficult in practice... I do hope that Conrad makes it to the starting line. I like the sound of his campaign, he's an Anarchist, and his boat is pretty cool. This is her back in 2005.
  12. Yachting World have posted a look aboard Macif, and there's an article on their website which has a few more details.
  13. There were thirty skippers in 2008, so there might be some flexibility to squeeze more boats into Les Sables d'Olonne. In fact, I recall a limit being mentioned in the run-up to the race, before not being imposed.
  14. If you want a Proto division then propose it to the Class 40 and see what they say. I believe that there were discussions about that in the early days, and the governing body came to the conclusion that having a single fleet sailing to a single rule was better than splitting it. Rail Meat might know more. Alternatively see if you can find a few skippers and set up your own class. If there's enough interest, and sufficient boats, then it should be possible to get a division in the Transatlantic races. I don't see a great value proposition in spending significantly more to build a boat that won't be significantly faster than a Class 40, will likely have a shorter competitive lifespan, and won't let you do any additional races.
  15. Black is very nearly back.