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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  

Jonathan Green

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About Jonathan Green

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    US East coast single & double handed distance racing
  1. Drones for sailing

    Who do you get insurance from?
  2. Bermuda 1-2 2017

    Some footage from leg one on Inigo Montoya
  3. Vendee Globe 2016?

    That was so great last time. Thanks for volunteering to do it again. If you're in LSDO over the next week, I will buy you many beers as pre-payment for services rendered.
  4. Vendee Globe 2016?

    Things are getting interesting around here, bunch of boats rolled in yesterday.
  5. Vendee Globe 2016?

    All the hotels are booked at this point so these are your best bet: https://www.homeaway.com/ https://www.airbnb.com/ Try to find a place that's walking distance from the docks as a car would be a pain to deal with and little parking available. I looked into staying at La Roche-sur-Yon with the idea that I'd take the train/bus to Les Sables but the last bus back leaves at 1725 and the last train at 1917 so wouldn't allow for hanging out in Les Sable in the evenings.
  6. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    If you think the Edith and his mob's message from this forum was "You're wrong" you clearly didn't read it. After expressing his desire to race his mini to Bermuda, he was met with “oh gosh, no, you can't race a mini to Bermuda, it's too dangerous and doesn't meet the race's stability requirements as stated in Rule number blah blah blah.” This from so called sailing anarchists. You want a safe space? Here it is. Then they moved to the personal attacks on their fellow sailor with the clear intent that no stone would be left unturned to discover unflattering evidence of his sailing abilities and the program's deficiencies. Please explain how any of this served our sport in a positive way. Edith believes he's going to save us from others' bullshit, as if we can’t spot it on our own. That's his big contribution to the sport? Pathetic. You seem to have a loose association with the facts there, buddy. Josh didn't just "express" his desire to race his mini to Bermuda. He expressed his desire..... Then he was told no. Then after he had been told no he decided the correct course of action would be to pitch a fit in emails before trying to throw mud in an online public forum to shame the organizers into allowing him to race. Multiple public forums actually. Scuttlebutt, Facebook, Reddit, sailing anarchy. He shouted from any soapbox he could. It was the latter part of this equation which brought down public scrutiny and derision upon him. Wrong, he was not trying to shame the OA into letting him race. You might want to go back and read the link in post number one of this thread. His accout of his conversation with the OA sounded quite civil where they discussed various ways he could sail to Bermuda without interfering with the race. Up to around post 100 the forum had a pretty good discussion about stability requirements, length restrictions, etc, then it turned to a personal attack.
  7. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    Not at all paranoid. Edith has already demonstrated that he has the time and willingness to dig deep on many aspects of Abilyn Racing including the structure and tax status of the organization and contacting Abilyn supporters about their involvement, several responses from which he posted. No doubt there were others that were omitted because they didn't help his objective to humiliate a fellow sailor. Interesting you said "he". You seem know him. Have you tracked Edith's IP address? Is time to hire a lawyer and start trial court? Attorneys? This is a free country, people can write whatever the fuck they want to. And no, I don't know him or have any idea who he is. That's what makes this thread so much more fucked up. If you're going to launch a personal attack against someone, at least have the balls to do it under your own name. Hiding behind a screen name isn't even cowardly enough for Edith, he has to use a different gender and a made up persona to boot.
  8. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    Not at all paranoid. Edith has already demonstrated that he has the time and willingness to dig deep on many aspects of Abilyn Racing including the structure and tax status of the organization and contacting Abilyn supporters about their involvement, several responses from which he posted. No doubt there were others that were omitted because they didn't help his objective to humiliate a fellow sailor.
  9. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    If you think the Edith and his mob's message from this forum was "You're wrong" you clearly didn't read it. After expressing his desire to race his mini to Bermuda, he was met with “oh gosh, no, you can't race a mini to Bermuda, it's too dangerous and doesn't meet the race's stability requirements as stated in Rule number blah blah blah.” This from so called sailing anarchists. You want a safe space? Here it is. Then they moved to the personal attacks on their fellow sailor with the clear intent that no stone would be left unturned to discover unflattering evidence of his sailing abilities and the program's deficiencies. Please explain how any of this served our sport in a positive way. Edith believes he's going to save us from others' bullshit, as if we can’t spot it on our own. That's his big contribution to the sport? Pathetic.
  10. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    All good tries at disuading me from the sport. The condescending attitude helps perpetuate the notion that sailing is an elitist sport, only accessible to those with money, and works well at keeping the cruisers and those on a budget off the race course. I'm sure you've found the condescension also works well at keeping potential new members away from your yacht club. Since there's a correlation between declining club membership and race participation, this too will help you in your campaign. But they don't happen to work on me. You'll need to go deeper Edith. When are you going to start with your creepy stalker technique of emailing supporters of mine to inquire about their involvement with me?
  11. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    Maybe it's not a matter of giving up the sport. It might be that someone's on the fence about whether to enter a race. Maybe a small word of encouragement is all it takes to get them on the starting line. Or maybe some bullshit personal attack is all it takes for them to say "fuck it, I'd rather go cruising with my family than deal with these assholes on the race course."
  12. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    You're going to have to try a lot harder than calling me sensitive to get me to give up the sport. Here's my blog: http://jaybirddog.blogspot.com. Perhaps this mob can find some old, stupid videos to freak out about, or references to supporters I've had along the way that Edith can email to inquire about their involvement with me. I bet if this mob really put their minds to it, you could get me to give up the sport too. When my boat's on the block in a couple weeks, I would suggest moving over to the SHTP thread where I'm sure you could find a whole bunch of people with boats far less stable than a mini you can launch discouragement campaigns against. If you really commit yourselves, I bet you guys could get a pile of people to give up sailing, and I have no doubt you'd enjoy it as much as you did in this thread. Me? I'll take the opposite approach and try to encourage as many people as I can to race. We could keep tallies and see who wins.
  13. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    There were plenty of bullshit cheap shots in this thread with a clear message: fuck off Josh. Yes, he may have gone a little overboard with the letter/website/partners silliness but all he wanted to do was race his mini to Bermuda and he got zero encouragement from this crowd. Next time I want to do something out of the norm, remind me not to bother discussing it here.
  14. Dear Newport Bermuda Organizing Authority...

    Good to know there are a few people out there with balls enough to follow their dreams, even when a bunch of so-called proponents of the sport try to tear you down. Most of this thread made me sick and dissuaded me from sharing my in-race posts. I realize there's a fine line between people who go offshore without a clue and those seeking adventure, but what is an adventure without risk? Without pushing yourself? Without taking on something new/different/challenging? Those unwilling to do so will be the first to post shit about those taking on the next adventure. Which person would you rather be?
  15. Singlehanded Transpac 2016

    Jonathan, you definitely need to do this race. How about 2018? Charter a boat, or ship Jeroboam. Be there or be square. Charter sounds about right. We shall see.