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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.

Jonathan Green

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  1. Some footage from leg one on Inigo Montoya
  2. That was so great last time. Thanks for volunteering to do it again. If you're in LSDO over the next week, I will buy you many beers as pre-payment for services rendered.
  3. Things are getting interesting around here, bunch of boats rolled in yesterday.
  4. All the hotels are booked at this point so these are your best bet: https://www.homeaway.com/ https://www.airbnb.com/ Try to find a place that's walking distance from the docks as a car would be a pain to deal with and little parking available. I looked into staying at La Roche-sur-Yon with the idea that I'd take the train/bus to Les Sables but the last bus back leaves at 1725 and the last train at 1917 so wouldn't allow for hanging out in Les Sable in the evenings.
  5. If you think the Edith and his mob's message from this forum was "You're wrong" you clearly didn't read it. After expressing his desire to race his mini to Bermuda, he was met with “oh gosh, no, you can't race a mini to Bermuda, it's too dangerous and doesn't meet the race's stability requirements as stated in Rule number blah blah blah.” This from so called sailing anarchists. You want a safe space? Here it is. Then they moved to the personal attacks on their fellow sailor with the clear intent that no stone would be left unturned to discover unflattering evidence of his sailing abilities and the program's deficiencies. Please explain how any of this served our sport in a positive way. Edith believes he's going to save us from others' bullshit, as if we can’t spot it on our own. That's his big contribution to the sport? Pathetic. You seem to have a loose association with the facts there, buddy. Josh didn't just "express" his desire to race his mini to Bermuda. He expressed his desire..... Then he was told no. Then after he had been told no he decided the correct course of action would be to pitch a fit in emails before trying to throw mud in an online public forum to shame the organizers into allowing him to race. Multiple public forums actually. Scuttlebutt, Facebook, Reddit, sailing anarchy. He shouted from any soapbox he could. It was the latter part of this equation which brought down public scrutiny and derision upon him. Wrong, he was not trying to shame the OA into letting him race. You might want to go back and read the link in post number one of this thread. His accout of his conversation with the OA sounded quite civil where they discussed various ways he could sail to Bermuda without interfering with the race. Up to around post 100 the forum had a pretty good discussion about stability requirements, length restrictions, etc, then it turned to a personal attack.
  6. Not at all paranoid. Edith has already demonstrated that he has the time and willingness to dig deep on many aspects of Abilyn Racing including the structure and tax status of the organization and contacting Abilyn supporters about their involvement, several responses from which he posted. No doubt there were others that were omitted because they didn't help his objective to humiliate a fellow sailor. Interesting you said "he". You seem know him. Have you tracked Edith's IP address? Is time to hire a lawyer and start trial court? Attorneys? This is a free country, people can write whatever the fuck they want to. And no, I don't know him or have any idea who he is. That's what makes this thread so much more fucked up. If you're going to launch a personal attack against someone, at least have the balls to do it under your own name. Hiding behind a screen name isn't even cowardly enough for Edith, he has to use a different gender and a made up persona to boot.
  7. Not at all paranoid. Edith has already demonstrated that he has the time and willingness to dig deep on many aspects of Abilyn Racing including the structure and tax status of the organization and contacting Abilyn supporters about their involvement, several responses from which he posted. No doubt there were others that were omitted because they didn't help his objective to humiliate a fellow sailor.
  8. If you think the Edith and his mob's message from this forum was "You're wrong" you clearly didn't read it. After expressing his desire to race his mini to Bermuda, he was met with “oh gosh, no, you can't race a mini to Bermuda, it's too dangerous and doesn't meet the race's stability requirements as stated in Rule number blah blah blah.” This from so called sailing anarchists. You want a safe space? Here it is. Then they moved to the personal attacks on their fellow sailor with the clear intent that no stone would be left unturned to discover unflattering evidence of his sailing abilities and the program's deficiencies. Please explain how any of this served our sport in a positive way. Edith believes he's going to save us from others' bullshit, as if we can’t spot it on our own. That's his big contribution to the sport? Pathetic.
  9. All good tries at disuading me from the sport. The condescending attitude helps perpetuate the notion that sailing is an elitist sport, only accessible to those with money, and works well at keeping the cruisers and those on a budget off the race course. I'm sure you've found the condescension also works well at keeping potential new members away from your yacht club. Since there's a correlation between declining club membership and race participation, this too will help you in your campaign. But they don't happen to work on me. You'll need to go deeper Edith. When are you going to start with your creepy stalker technique of emailing supporters of mine to inquire about their involvement with me?
  10. Maybe it's not a matter of giving up the sport. It might be that someone's on the fence about whether to enter a race. Maybe a small word of encouragement is all it takes to get them on the starting line. Or maybe some bullshit personal attack is all it takes for them to say "fuck it, I'd rather go cruising with my family than deal with these assholes on the race course."
  11. You're going to have to try a lot harder than calling me sensitive to get me to give up the sport. Here's my blog: http://jaybirddog.blogspot.com. Perhaps this mob can find some old, stupid videos to freak out about, or references to supporters I've had along the way that Edith can email to inquire about their involvement with me. I bet if this mob really put their minds to it, you could get me to give up the sport too. When my boat's on the block in a couple weeks, I would suggest moving over to the SHTP thread where I'm sure you could find a whole bunch of people with boats far less stable than a mini you can launch discouragement campaigns against. If you really commit yourselves, I bet you guys could get a pile of people to give up sailing, and I have no doubt you'd enjoy it as much as you did in this thread. Me? I'll take the opposite approach and try to encourage as many people as I can to race. We could keep tallies and see who wins.
  12. There were plenty of bullshit cheap shots in this thread with a clear message: fuck off Josh. Yes, he may have gone a little overboard with the letter/website/partners silliness but all he wanted to do was race his mini to Bermuda and he got zero encouragement from this crowd. Next time I want to do something out of the norm, remind me not to bother discussing it here.
  13. Good to know there are a few people out there with balls enough to follow their dreams, even when a bunch of so-called proponents of the sport try to tear you down. Most of this thread made me sick and dissuaded me from sharing my in-race posts. I realize there's a fine line between people who go offshore without a clue and those seeking adventure, but what is an adventure without risk? Without pushing yourself? Without taking on something new/different/challenging? Those unwilling to do so will be the first to post shit about those taking on the next adventure. Which person would you rather be?
  14. Jonathan, you definitely need to do this race. How about 2018? Charter a boat, or ship Jeroboam. Be there or be square. Charter sounds about right. We shall see.
  15. This is such a great race. Some day...