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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. What new AC 36 Class boat would you like ?

    How about a modern version of a Chesapeake Log Canoe? Spectacular capsizes for the Red Bull/Facebook generation. Check. Canvas enough to be a sailmakers wet dream. "I think I've found a way for us to add another 3 sq ft". Check Athletic movement of hiking boards makes more sense to spectators than hamsters/cyclors/grinders pumping oil. Check. Mizzen trimmer sitting on the bumpkin, so usually a light weight female crew member => mixed crews. Check. Position in crew for owner/celebrity guest as "boardmen" Check.
  2. Live Racing Thread

    Absolutely
  3. Live Racing Thread

    Red boats don't work in America's Cup. They seem to be cursed. Mariner, Il Moro, NZL-20
  4. Live Racing Thread

    I think the penalty question boils down to when is the penalty "get behind" and when is it "Lose two boat lengths". For the answer to that, look at rule 44.2 in https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=YWNyYWNlbWd0LmNvbXxub3RpY2Vib2FyZHxneDoxMDMyMWFiNDFiYzIyYzU2 tl;dr; a ) penalty before the start => lose two b ) OSC => get behind c ) Part 2 infraction on same leg or in the zone => get behind 4 ) all others => lose two So in the situation that caused all these questions, NZL and GBR were most def not on the same leg, so it could only be d) lose two. And the response from the official twitter, utter covfefe
  5. Live Racing Thread

    Or just read the rules. If the boats are on the same leg or in the zone, it's 44.2 (c), and the penalized boat has to drop 2 hull lenghts behind the other. As BAR and ETNZ were very much on different legs, we go to 44.2 (d), and there the penalty is to reduce VMG until she loses two hull lengths compared to the other boat.
  6. Live Racing Thread

    Ben went down a few degrees after ETNZ started bearing off. That enough to be hunting and throwing away the penalty. Ben should have kept the wheel steady
  7. Live Racing Thread

    Maersk has been a sponsor for ETNZ for a long time. They were onboard in SF as well.
  8. Team NZ

    The Arab team boards seem to start boiling & slow down much earlier than the Brit ones, looking at the vids. Brits? You mean team Tata Motors from India?
  9. Who wants to try my new sailing app?

    I think that is a line from "The Usual Suspects" - When Verbal points out that the crew of the boat is jabbering away in Hungarian rather than Russian. Which is a clue that Verbal is actually Keyser Soze. That. And the screenshots are from Lake Balaton and shows the carrier as "Vodafone HU"
  10. ACWS New York - May 6, 7, 8 2016

    I think Kim was busy. But they did get Lindsey Vonn and Miley Cyrus's beau, so thats something. http://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/sporting/news/a6118/americas-cup-race-new-york-city/
  11. Oracle Team USA

    Well, that to be honest that has been the Oracle brand for decades now http://www.forbes.com/forbes/1999/0920/6407050a.html My favourite part: Ellison says the ads will continue unchanged. Go ahead and sue, he jeers: “We have more lawyers than they have programmers.”
  12. Because there is no process to do so. ISAF can review rule 69 cases referred to it. That's the process. Oh. I see. So 69.2.d doesn't apply to Bryce (and others penalized)? (d) The protest committee shall promptly report a penalty, but not a warning, to the national authorities of the venue, of the competitor and of the boat owner. If the protest committee is an international jury appointed by the ISAF under rule 89.2( , it shall send a copy of the report to the ISAF. I think you are looking in the wrong rule book. AC 35 had a special version of the RRS, and there is no 69.2.d. The similar rule in AC RRS is simply 69.1© The Jury shall promptly report a penalty, but not a warning, to the national authority of the person and to the ISAF. And from Jury Notice 116, it would appear that the IJ was fully aware of this requirement for Bryce and the others as evident in DECISIONS ON PENALTIES Bryce Ruthenberg Bryce Ruthenberg is excluded from further participation in any role in the 34th America’s Cup. RRSAC rule 69.1© requires the Jury to inform his National Authority (Australian Yachting Federation) and the International Sailing Federation, which bodies may impose further penalties; however, in view of his full, frank and early admissions, the Jury will recommend that no further action be taken.