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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Seeing some new F18 designs that are offering straight boards as well as a foiling/curved board hybrid option. So, two boats in one...but the price of two sets of boards for the privilege. Given the min weight is 180kg's, the manufacturers have to put the weight somewhere, reinforcing the board area to allow at least curved boards to be fitted seems reasonable for the future development of the class. I don't think full foiling is the right direction for the fleet but better performance through curved boards feels like natural evolution of the class. But I'm only one person. The reinforcing of the casing shouldn't add to much to the cost. The builders are already over laying the hulls to get the weight up so it's just a matter of re-positioning some of that weight. Cost of boards will bring the price up but the extra long boards are already expensive. Make them shorter and curved and the pricing may get close to balancing out. Winglets on the rudders are probably a good idea too...we're not all olympic sailors.
  2. https://www.podbean.com/media/share/pb-fzcvs-571d71#.VZ3Pbpjbrbw.facebook Great interview about the Nacra's and how they're more expensive than a T to campaign. Also talks about the high costs Nacra are putting on spare parts and the reliability issues.
  3. Haven't seen the pics. Links? How many do reckon?
  4. It's a very expensive lesson to expect sailors and teams to fund. You can talk about Laser, 470 and Star masts all you like but they're not US$5k+ to replace. At that price the engineering needs to be better. And this is over multiple regatta's. It's not a one off freak occurrence. There's simply a suitability gap between the performance of the boat relative to the mast and that's not acceptable. That's not shitting over the Nacra party. It's a simple fact and I'm surprised you're expecting sailors to accept it.
  5. I don't know...that's why I asked the question. Do you have the answers??
  6. I wonder how much gear breakage there was in all the other fleets sailing that day?? Serious question if anyone's got some info. It will help put the N17 durability issue into some perspective. This talk of loads being too high on T's and F18's is rubbish. The mainsheet is easier to sheet on the T than an F18. The sail area of the N17 is very similar to the F18 so similar loads. The only issue on either of these boats would be the spinnaker loads, which are overcome simply with a 2-1 set up on the sheets. We sailed the T worlds in January that included a warm up event. 9 days sailing over 11 days total. 3 weeks later went to the Aus F18 nationals run over 4 days. Both myself and my brother pulled up worse for wear after the F18's than the T's. Given the amount of athletic work required to keep the N17 on the water and not tipping over I can't believe they're considered an easier boat to sail for a mixed crew. Nahid Gaebler works the front of the T as well as anyone. She wouldn't be considered a "big" lady by any means. She is fit but so is any world class level sailor. It's a mute excuse. Stop the gear failures and let the sailors win events on their merits.
  7. Nacra must be laughing all the way to the bank with this. I'm sure they're a fantastic boat to sail - the sailors love them. But to say they're better value than what the T's were or an F18 option is simply wrong. Ongoing problems with foils, hulls and masts must be making these one of the most expensive boats to campaign ever. I sailed the T worlds in Perth in 25 knots, a number of F18 nationals in 20+ knots and never see any of the failure levels these N17's present.
  8. In Melbourne, Australia yesterday - very sad. A four-year-old girl was clinging to her mum's leg when she was fatally mauled by a pitbull terrier in Melbourne's northwest, a relative of the family has said. Police say the attack happened at a house in Lahy Street, St Albans, at 8.10pm last night. Her visibly distressed mother Jaclin Appok was surrounded by members of the Sudanese community at a relative's home today. Through an interpreter she described her daughter as "a very artistic girl, she loved to draw and she talked a lot''. Ms Appok was too distressed to speak about what happened. It is believed the dog escaped from a neighbour's yard and entered the home where Ayen Chol and several other children were watching television. Ayen died at the scene, another cousin aged 30 suffered bite wounds to her hands and arms and a five-year-old girl was bitten on the back of her head. RELATED COVERAGE REACTION: Dog owners face tougher penalties My daughter's getting attacked: Pitbull ripped girl from her mum's legThe Australian, 7 minutes ago Calls for more action on pitbullsThe Australian, 17 minutes ago Baillieu must ban dangerous dogs nowHerald Sun, 27 minutes ago Dog owners 'should be culpable'The Australian, 46 minutes ago Mauling victim was clinging to mum's legThe Daily Telegraph, 1 hour ago Daniel Atem, a cousin of the victims, said one of Ayen's relatives was outside the house when the dog came at her. As she rushed into the house, the animal followed her. Mr Atem said the dog initially attacked the five-year-old girl and as Ayen's mother intervened, the dog then attacked Ayen, who was clinging on to her mother's leg. "It (the dog) pulled the child from the mum... the daughter died, the dog left the child and then the owner of the dog came after that and took the dog out," Mr Atem said. The death has prompted the Victorian government to propose that dog owners whose pets kill people should face consequences similar to culpable drivers, who can be jailed for a maximum of 20 years' jail. The Nationals deputy leader Peter Walsh said the government is considering amending the Crimes Act to crack down on the owners of dangerous dogs that kill people. He said owners should be held responsible for their dogs' actions, similar to people charged with culpable driving, he said. "These types of dogs have lost their right to exist in Victoria," Mr Walsh told reporters today. A cousin of the victim said the girl's father, who is working in southern Sudan, has been contacted and was returning home. "He's very, very, very sad. The elders community in southern Sudan will counsel him," Mr Atem said. Police have yet to determine if charges will be laid against the dog's owner, who has agreed to have it destroyed. A neighbour has described how the girl's mother screamed for help as her daughter was mauled. The neighbour, who did not want to give his name, said he rushed for help after the girl's mother came screaming from the house: "My daughter's getting attacked by a dog''. He said that he and others ran into the house where they tried to revive the girl with assistance from ambulance services over the phone. He said that he had never seen the dog in the street before and that the dog's owner was "devastated'' by the attack. Superintendent Graham Kent said police were at the early stages of the investigation. "It's yet to be fully investigated to see whether or not there's been any offence committed,'' Superintendent Graham Kent said. "Our focus at this stage is to find out what happened and in the process of doing that we will find out whether or not there's been any offence." Superintendent Kent said when police arrived at the scene, it was chaotic and very distressing. American Pit Bull Terrier Club of Australia president Colin Muir said the issue was not about a particular breed but the wider problem of responsible ownership of dogs. He said no dog of any breed was safe to be left unattended with children. "It's not a breed issue, it's about responsibility of ownership and it's about education," Mr Muir said. Daniel Atem, another cousin of the victims, described Ayen as "a lovely little girl, very talkative and popular in kindergarten". The family arrived in Australia in 2004 after spending three years in Egypt awaiting resettlement. They were living at their cousin's house after their own home burned down. Pit bulls are a restricted breed in Victoria, with regulations meaning all must be desexed and registered with local councils. There is a large media pack in Lahy Street, in the working class suburb of St Albans where the attack occurred. At the girl's home the blinds were shut and there is no sign of activity in the house.
  9. Isn't that cute!!! They must be harmless then. .....Oh, hang on I just googled "pictures of pit bulls":