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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. Wind direction has slowly clocked all week and at this moment is now north of due west, quite light (I'd guess 6-8 based on the waves), and it's overcast and super humid. Given how it has trended and is now, I tend to believe the GFS/NAM models showing 5-12 out of the SW +/- 30 degrees.
  2. Not a soul. The walking route from the ferry to the entrance provided no space for hawking, and the Hamilton ferry docks simply had no hawking going on despite there being space for it. I can't tell you about anything near the car parking or the taxi drop-off. I can say that the Bermuda military is present everywhere (yes, they have a military) and getting as nitty as making sure people walk the correct way through the corrals. I am sure hawking is happening, but it's not like NYC where it takes place practically under the watchful eyes of the local cops. On the other hand, they were VERY loose with the definition of what a 4-year-old kid looks like. They were letting in 8 and 9 year olds for free without batting an eye. Yeah, not that I've heard of here! Although to be fair I did not check air b&b months ago and I am sure that there were some rooms for rent. A small house/condo, tho, would go for a multiple of what you paid.
  3. I will say that the rumor I heard several times is that this is exactly the plan if ENTZ go on to win: continue with RC's F1-like league and take as many teams as possible (Artemis, SoftBank, Groupama, maybe even BAR and OR, plus some new ones) telling the Kiwis that if they would like the AC to be part of the circuit that's fine but the circuit continues regardless. Not saying it would work, but that it's their intention. If you think about it from LE's perspective it sort of makes sense. It is said that LE does not like to lose but I'd go a step further and say that LE does not lose, ever. He figures out a way, in advance, to make sure he wins no matter what happens on the water. So if you buy into that idea then it makes sense that he already had a plan B figured out and already has at least a handful of teams signed up to it. These are big IFs. If you believe the rumors, and if you believe that LE had a plan B ready, then the choice that ENTZ faces is sort of stark: either play along with LE/RC and hold the AC in two years in AC50s in New Zealand with a world series in multiple locations leading up to it, or find other teams willing to finance the design and development of another platform in order to face off in New Zealand in three or four years time. Personally I don't buy it. I think LE walks away. I think his "win" in his mind is what he has already achieved. I think he knows that the F1-like league is a dream that cannot be achieved without the AC as the trophy.
  4. OMG I just might. Never been, always wanted to go, and kids will be the right age! Wifey and I literally tossed a coin to choose between NZ and Aus for honeymoon and ended up in northern Queensland.
  5. Tough to tell since there were so few opportunities for the OR fans to make themselves heard, so I could be way off here, but I'd say about 80% OR. If you throw in the "ambivalent-just-here-to-enjoy-the-spectacle" as a third option, it was probably about 15% ENTZ, 60% OR, 25% just chilling. Really really hard to tell tho.
  6. I just spent two days at the races and thought I'd share my thoughts about it and open a thread for it. I hope some others have or will be here and can chime in. This is more about the experience than about the racing as for that there are other robust threads, though of course the quality of the racing does have an impact on the quality of the experience. So here we go in somewhat chronological order. The Bermudian authorities have done an amazing job with the logistics of getting people to and from the village. My son and I used the ferry from Hamilton and other friends have taken taxis all the way out and others drove, parked, and took the shuttle over. All of us reported nearly a nearly flawless process. They made it clear where to go, it was orderly, the ferries were mostly efficient. There was a clear benefit to getting one of the smaller faster ferries but unfortunately that just came to luck and if you got pointed to the big one ("M/V Bermudian", I think) then you had an extra 15 minutes load time due to all the people, and extra 15 minutes unload, and a slower ride across. But that is really the only nit I can pick. Upon arriving at the village the process of entering was quick and efficient and in the shade. Bravo Bermuda, well done. You could have made the fans' first experience with the day like getting to a NY Football Giants game, but you didn't. It was hot, both days and more so on Sunday. So hot that my 5 year old son started overheating. But the design of the village includes a copious amount of shade, astroturf to cool the walkways, misting sprays, and lots and lots of water stations. Without any need to go to the medical tent I got him cooled back down. It helps, of course, that the breeze was blowing, which is sort of the point isn't it. The kids' activities were also really well thought out. "Masts" for the kids to climb, "catamarans" for them to sail, an interactive educational area that included local Bermuda sea life that my son loved as we got live sea urchins to hold, and lots of oversized pillows in the shade for taking a break. The sounds of kids having fun was almost as deafening as the sound stage. Which, IMO, had decent live bands. My little boy had his first experience listening to a live cover of Highway to Hell so loud that it reverberated through our bodies. He loved it. Future headbanger, I think! That or future boyfriend of super hot lead singer who he could not take his eyes off of ... and she kept smiling and pointing to him so that just made him blush! Great little vignette experience that added to the overall enjoyment. Then, there's the food and beverage. Ok, so major deduction in points here. I have been fortunate enough to be at baseball stadiums (stadia, for you grammarians out there) during the world series, sold out NFL games, the US Open, the Masters, and other major events. Some have long lines and expensive food/drink (I'm looking at you, USTA) and others have short lines and inexpensive food (yeah Masters), and this event clearly felt like it was copying the USTA. Boo. Seriously, when will events like this get it: sell the food and drink at cost or at a loss and make sure that the lines move fast and you will get outsized props from the fans. It will be among the first two or three things they say about the event. And it's not like the ticket was all that much less expensive than a day at the Masters either. Of course they are getting less tv revenue, but I do think that the organizers need to consider the benefit of getting more people to want to say more good things so that, ultimately, they can get more tv revenue down the line. We had grandstand seats, other friends did the various lounges or boats. For going with children/families, the grandstand was perfect. I understand that if you are going to make a long boozy day out of it that one of the other options may be better, but well done by the organizers to have different sub-venues for different parts of the audience. The grandstand was cool and breezy and the vibe was great. Having the announcers right there was good. The intermission entertainment was hilarious although overtly commercial as they showed kids racing in a new Bic sailboat that is a step up from Optis. We didn't care about the commercialism, it was still great fun. Like watching the peewee hockey players between periods. OK, so the racing. Watching it live was no better than watching on tv. Sorry, but it's not true stadium seating. The boats were so far away that you had no ability to discern relative position. On Sunday the wind direction was such that one end of the line was obscured by a point of land and the other end was obscured by the spectator fleet. Maybe some of the spectator boats had better views when the boats were in that part of the course. Our only good views were of the finish, which was indeed pretty cool, and of the massive tv showing the race live to the grandstand ... which was sort of the same as watching on a massive tv. It did seem to be a feed that was just for the village, and not the same one from NBC. And it was technically quite cool to watch the commentators do their work. Their job was not easy. Since they were watching it on tv along with the rest of us they were dependent on the feed for the information they had. I'm not sure how you would improve on this. In the end, I suppose you could say that my opinion is that there are two totally different experiences. There is the village experience for those who enjoy live events with a myriad of options, and there is the tv experience for those who enjoy watching the race. Sorry to say, but in this case they are somewhat mutually exclusive. My son and I had a fabulous time during two days there and short of a few quibbles (shorter food lines, sell it for less), I would not change much. And the Bermudian authorities did a great job supporting it. And for those who are looking to say that no one is here let me say that it seemed to be at least 10,000 people at the village and there is not a taxi to be found on the island. Then number of large yachts here is unprecedented. Office space that has been vacant for years has been occupied and homes rented for months at a time. My Bermudian friends were quite emotional about all this has brought their country and even more upset than the American fans at the results on the water. My advice, in the unlikely event that anyone should ever ask, would be to optimize the two experiences to be as great as possible on totally separate tracks. The tv experience has been deeply discussed in other threads and clearly needs some changes; the attendance experience was wonderful but not perfect. Whatever happens with the cup, I do hope that this experience can be brought to more people in more places more frequently. It need not be racing for the cup itself, but it clearly needs fan and tv support to work. Which I hope it does. Cheers to you all. 2N
  7. With enough deck space, you could power it this way:
  8. It was just pointed out to me that when DC brought the cup back to the US, there was a ticker-tape parade for him in NYC and he met with President Reagan. Somehow I don't think the same would be afforded to JS should he win again.
  9. LOL. It sure would. I'm not convinced that a Class40/Volvo60 could make it all the way without hitting or snagging something submerged, which a multi is less likely to do. But yeah, an ocean-going race boat designed for the southern ocean should be able to keep going no matter what the wind/seas are.
  10. Three years into it and we seem to have the answer that Jake asked in one of the first videos: what kind of vessel can get to Alaska first. 2015: F-25 Trimaran 2016: Marstrom M32 Catamaran 2017: 28' 8.5 Trimaran Some monohulls have been really close, but as soon as the boats get past Bella Bella the multis just put on the afterburners. So, what would it take for a mono to win? What kind of boat could do it? If one were to buy a Class40 or an old Volvo boat, crew it fully, and sail 24/7, could you win?
  11. Near Pearl Island??
  12. Maybe put the windward mark about 1/2 mile due south of Green Bay on Spanish Point, and then have a really long reach to the finish line??
  13. Wind speed forecasts look fine, but direction is a problem. Has the committee run an E-W course yet? Where do they put it?
  14. This is awesome. Truly, distance sailing at its best.
  15. Now (0600 Thursday run) GFS is saying 6-9 both days but the Navy model is now saying that Saturday is 1-2 !!! That's one to two knots! yikes.