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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. Book anarchy

    I love that idea, I'll keep an eye out for that book. I think that anyone who has spent s chunk of their life around a dog eventually thinks about how it came to be that we share our most personal living conditions with an entirely distinct species of animal, which could potentially kill us or our children, and yet they usually don't. It's more than just domestication; cattle, sheep and chickens are domesticated. But in this case, a good dog still has a lot of its wild qualities, they're still desirable to guard and to hunt. But the change we've made in each other is mostly emotional. We're committed to that species and they're committed to us. It's completely bizarre if you stop to think about it. Thanks for the book suggestion.
  2. Book anarchy

    Is that the one that suggests that Homo sapiens were able to eventually beat the Neanderthals because of our relationship with dogs? It sounded compelling to me ... once we had dogs in our camps we were able to sleep better with the dogs taking on guard duty, and eat better with dogs helping us with hunts, also have longer living offspring with dogs guarding our children from predators. It was the perfect evolutionary synchronicity, we couldn't eat the parts of the animals that the dogs could eat, and they had a social structure that made room for humans.
  3. Trump: I Should Have Left UCLA Players in Jail.

    Any bit of Kafka in particular? Perhaps "In the Penal Colony" where an elaborate execution machine carves the words of the crime into the skin of the condemned? I don't see what that actually has to do with the current administration, but for some reason it came to mind. Kafka is an odd one. He doesn't spell things out the way that Orwell did, but he had similar concerns. He seems to take the path of unaware parody in a way that eventually has the reader doubt a little of their own sanity for going along with it all. It's very subtle stuff, and the translations tend to lose nuance ... I only assume that because I've only read him in English, but comparing two different translations exposes different subtleties in the stories. If Franz Kafka were alive today he would probably script television game shows just to fuck with us all.
  4. Trump Proposes The Use of Mini-Nukes in Warfare

    If there was Constitutional compliance, we wouldn't have needed a Thirteenth Amendment. Why did we need an Amendment to remind us that all men are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights? Why? Because if you don't spell out the letter of Natural Rights then there are always a gaggle of fucksticks to whom certain truths are not self-evident.
  5. Sooooo perty...

    Back when I was 16 a girlfriend's Antiguan daddy was going to give her an Austin when she got her license. I've inevitably mixed the emotions for that bit of skirt and the Austins since then. It's a lovely ride. British cars from before they took the Super Cheap Highway. What year do you have?
  6. Missing Argentinian Sub

    Is the South Atlantic's version of Devil's Triangle, the St. Peter's Rocks? Lot of sailors in that boat, I hope they find them.
  7. Trump Proposes The Use of Mini-Nukes in Warfare

    They're fully awake. But they have an emotionally-driven decision process more typical of a slighted fifth grade boy than a grown adult. And these people are peppered through community, commerce, industry and politics to such a degree that their collective emotional illness suggests a degree of sanity that doesn't actually exist. The genuinely unnerving part to President Trump's opinion on this is that it is typical of a teenager's online uttering during war video games like Halo or Assassin's Creed, rather than a 71 year old man who has lived though the Cold War and even the direct aftermath of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. His generation is supposed to be a beacon of ration for ignorant nuclear war hawks, not a drum major for them. Eventually, the survivors -- like you -- of the nuclear age will no longer be around to whip the nonsense out of these people. Their experiences and your experiences need to be need to be carefully documented and preserved, as the last line of defense against a certain virulent brand of ignorance. Because that game doesn't have a reset button.
  8. Trump Proposes The Use of Mini-Nukes in Warfare

    Seems like an issue that begs a Constitutional Amendment.
  9. Trump Proposes The Use of Mini-Nukes in Warfare

    There are some issues that are above left-right politics, this is one of those things. We all know that tactical nukes have been around for a while because we read books and we're educated. This thread is about violently misguided policy.
  10. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    Yeah, and if you blend beef fat with friggen non-meat textured vegetable protein, it will taste incredible too. Anything tastes good with beef fat because beef fat is nutrient-dense magic from the miracle of modern ranching technology. I have friends who eat a lot of deer and a couple who eat elk (much harder to get a tag) and they use the beef fat (some use pork fat) liberally. It makes me wonder how much they really love wild game and how much they like getting cheap meat. One friend of mine in Indiana can afford any meat he wants, he's an astronomy professor with no wife, no kids, no debt. He prefers straight deer meat over beef. He's one of only two people I've ever known who will always pick the wild steak over a really good beef steak. Wild game may taste good, but well-raised and finished beef is a modern miracle, taste tested and market modified to make something so far beyond the taste of wild game that it's like comparing a Snicker's bar to a handful of cocoa beans and a sugar beet.
  11. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    Those bisons are eventually, just cattle. They are pastured in the same fields, finished on the same grains and Hi-Pro supplements. USDA mostly requires that for market meats. One of Turner's old bison ranches is close to where I live, he eventually offered the herd to the Open Space, I'm not sure if they accepted them or not. There is a slight taste difference, but compared to the bison burgers of my youth (with bison supplied by a Native American corporation up North) they taste a lot more like regular European steers than wild bison meat.
  12. Pachyderm disaster (poll)

    Many of those populations are so thin already, that there isn't a major need to cull them. Big money hunters don't want to go after the common animals, they want the rarer animals. And the idea that these hunts inject all that money into local economies and the preserves is mostly a myth too, like any other arms-support business, the use fees tend to go the businesses that organize them. https://www.thedodo.com/does-hunting-help-conservation-1389284014.html Game reserves aren't becoming wealthier and healthier with these hunts, they're losing animal populations, and when that happens they then lose the tourism dollars. http://theweek.com/articles/492657/africas-big-animal-problem Even old, less impressive animals that may appeal to a hunter can bring in ten times more tourism revenue per animal than can be made by allowing some entitled asshole to shoot them. Worse, it creates a double standard where locals see Europeans, Americans and Asians shoot their animals for big bucks, so then the locals often just poach them illegally. The reason Atoms for Peace failed is because we finally realized that we couldn't tell small countries to not fuck around with nuclear weapons while we fucked around with nuclear weapons and then sold them nuclear reactors. It's a similar problem with these big game hunters, we can't tell the locals "don't shoot the animals on the game reserves" while we simultaneously allow dipshits to shoot the animals on the game reserves. It doesn's work, the numbers show that it doesn't work, and it needs to end. If an animal is protected then it's protected. As Clove Hitch points out, there are plenty of unprotected species and ways to hunt them that require a giant swinging set of iron balls.
  13. Voltage regulator blues

    I'm not sure that they'll be obsolete, it seems the industry is now headed more towards cost reduction rather than significant increases in conversion efficiency. Did you use micro-inverters?
  14. Voltage regulator blues

    Yes, and you just bought your panels outright. We got rooked into the deal by our builder.
  15. Why the Focus on Gunz?

    Yes, if after several future attacks with their vehicle, Home Depot begins to show a trend of ignoring proper rental procedures, lack of interest in working with law enforcement, then yes, we should hold them responsible for the damage that their rentals cause. One or two attacks? Maybe not, they need time to develop a workable policy and find a way to enforce it. But fifty-some attacks like the firearm industry? Absolutely. And the Oklahoma City bombing? That brought major changes to the design of Federal buildings, to the sale and intelligence around large purchases of combustible material and to the rental accreditation of certain vehicles. 9/11 forever changed security in aircraft too. So yes, these events absolutely do trigger measurable changes in industries. But mass murderers with guns? Little to no industry responsibility, they don't care because they don't have to care. They don't care because gun guys will buy their products regardless, and because The Constitution lets them give the People of the USA, a giant middle finger soaked in their ball-sweat. When rational people see their product being used to kill innocents, they become distraught and they try to help find a solution. When the products of arms manufacturers see their products used to kill innocents, they see it as a regrettable testament to the efficiency of their product design, and some even think of the free advertising. Some perfectly peaceful gun guys pick up their weapon of the same model used to commit mass murders, and take a certain guilty pride that their weapon of choice has shown its efficacy in such an effective manner under real life conditions. Do you disagree, or is Colin F just unmanly? Should we revoke Colin F's man card, JBSF? The fail is all your's, JBSF.