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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. No plans / need to add some storage in the amas?
  2. If the foils are down 75-100% all the time, why not just keep then there? Is there any drag from the windward foil?
  3. Precisely. Any ideas about what this hull is worth? Was it honeycomb/ CF or fiberglass with CF in load areas?
  4. A piece of history... Nothing new but well written. I'd only update with allowing carbon masts: http://www.slideshare.net/WorldofTrimaranEnthusiasts/sailing-history-formula-40-a-new-class-yachting-march-1986-vol-158-no-3 I'm also not sure about demountable amas and the 40' L limit for the F40 revival anymore. In practice very few if any boats will be shipped other than from a factory. The sport has evolved to owner-captains doing local (as far as hemisphere and ocean are concerned) races. So I'd only limit the size to the point where the boat can be single handed without expensive and complicated systems (hydraulics, sail weight, etc).
  5. established designers seem to coalesce on a 45' bridgeless cat as the standard for something like what we are discussing. SIG 45, MM California 45, not the RP 45 from the front page (the latter 2 vapor it seems). G4 is 40' but also a cat. No new tris. Kind of curious why.
  6. Since I kind of seeded the meme, and may even be onboard for the purchase, here are my parameters: 40', removable amas C foils, not full foiling, but no prohibition against that either. Allow 6 foils, but I'd go with 4 like Randy (also less drag from misaligned main/ama rudders) for the first boats Rotating mast okay, canting too, but hard limit on limit mast height (70'?). This would probably eliminate big main-only M32-like rigs, because if you go with that someone will add foresails to it and again you'll have the game of chicken trading speed for capsize risk. Sleeping 4, toilet. Kitchen optional. Carbon beams, foils, mast, that's it. Or a min displacement rule. Saildrive. Make it diesel or electric, optional. But not retractable (cost). (Don't think genset+batteries +electric drive weighs less than diesel fwiw.) Closer to $500k than $1m. Think it's very doable.
  7. And that is a very curious outcome in my mind. There are clear network effects (more begets more) in sailboat racing. Resale values, economies of scale, etc. Just witness the runaway successes of Lasers, Hobie 16s, F18s, or even Harbor 20s in Newport Beach. Yet the critical mass has been eluding anything >20', except the 8.5m class in NZ and Firefly 8.5 in Australia. I'm not familiar with the history of F40, but it seems to have been successful. TP 52, Class 40 in monos. So this has been a coordination failure. At any given time there seem to be a handful of people contemplating something like this, with 2-3 ready to commit $ to the right project. (Eg SIG 45, Fujin, Girlfriend, Wahoo). All 4 of those were more $$ than the threshold for a successful class would've been, but out of necessity. I think something like Multi 50 could be it, if 3 people managed to coordinate bringing them to SF bay.
  8. The OP question was about Racing. The main factor that makes racing fun is other boats taking part. So far I see a bunch of one-offs with unclear linkage between skill, tactics, luck, calling the weather, etc and results. Without clear linkage it's less fun and harder to improve. So whatever multihull makes it most likely that at least three identical boats end up racing in a given area is the best choice. Almost makes me want to endorse the 40 class half boats mentioned above
  9. Agree, looks like a decent deal.
  10. NY Battery park waterfront is full of people
  11. NBC SN replaying Portsmouth. All the SA's negativity aside, this is a great show
  12. Sunday could be epic though - unless they abandon because of 25+
  13. embarrasing.
  14. Dunno. Downloaded NBC SN on Apple TV. Playing live now. Didn't pay or sign up. Driftfest indeed