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      A Few Simple Rules   05/22/2017

      Sailing Anarchy is a very lightly moderated site. This is by design, to afford a more free atmosphere for discussion. There are plenty of sailing forums you can go to where swearing isn't allowed, confrontation is squelched and, and you can have a moderator finger-wag at you for your attitude. SA tries to avoid that and allow for more adult behavior without moderators editing your posts and whacking knuckles with rulers. We don't have a long list of published "thou shalt nots" either, and this is by design. Too many absolute rules paints us into too many corners. So check the Terms of Service - there IS language there about certain types of behavior that is not permitted. We interpret that lightly and permit a lot of latitude, but we DO reserve the right to take action when something is too extreme to tolerate (too racist, graphic, violent, misogynistic, etc.). Yes, that is subjective, but it allows us discretion. Avoiding a laundry list of rules allows for freedom; don't abuse it. However there ARE a few basic rules that will earn you a suspension, and apparently a brief refresher is in order. 1) Allegations of pedophilia - there is no tolerance for this. So if you make allegations, jokes, innuendo or suggestions about child molestation, child pornography, abuse or inappropriate behavior with minors etc. about someone on this board you will get a time out. This is pretty much automatic; this behavior can have real world effect and is not acceptable. Obviously the subject is not banned when discussion of it is apropos, e.g. talking about an item in the news for instance. But allegations or references directed at or about another poster is verboten. 2) Outing people - providing real world identifiable information about users on the forums who prefer to remain anonymous. Yes, some of us post with our real names - not a problem to use them. However many do NOT, and if you find out someone's name keep it to yourself, first or last. This also goes for other identifying information too - employer information etc. You don't need too many pieces of data to figure out who someone really is these days. Depending on severity you might get anything from a scolding to a suspension - so don't do it. I know it can be confusing sometimes for newcomers, as SA has been around almost twenty years and there are some people that throw their real names around and their current Display Name may not match the name they have out in the public. But if in doubt, you don't want to accidentally out some one so use caution, even if it's a personal friend of yours in real life. 3) Posting While Suspended - If you've earned a timeout (these are fairly rare and hard to get), please observe the suspension. If you create a new account (a "Sock Puppet") and return to the forums to post with it before your suspension is up you WILL get more time added to your original suspension and lose your Socks. This behavior may result a permanent ban, since it shows you have zero respect for the few rules we have and the moderating team that is tasked with supporting them. Check the Terms of Service you agreed to; they apply to the individual agreeing, not the account you created, so don't try to Sea Lawyer us if you get caught. Just don't do it. Those are the three that will almost certainly get you into some trouble. IF YOU SEE SOMEONE DO ONE OF THESE THINGS, please do the following: Refrain from quoting the offending text, it makes the thread cleanup a pain in the rear Press the Report button; it is by far the best way to notify Admins as we will get e-mails. Calling out for Admins in the middle of threads, sending us PM's, etc. - there is no guarantee we will get those in a timely fashion. There are multiple Moderators in multiple time zones around the world, and anyone one of us can handle the Report and all of us will be notified about it. But if you PM one Mod directly and he's off line, the problem will get dealt with much more slowly. Other behaviors that you might want to think twice before doing include: Intentionally disrupting threads and discussions repeatedly. Off topic/content free trolling in threads to disrupt dialog Stalking users around the forums with the intent to disrupt content and discussion Repeated posting of overly graphic or scatological porn content. There are plenty web sites for you to get your freak on, don't do it here. And a brief note to Newbies... No, we will not ban people or censor them for dropping F-bombs on you, using foul language, etc. so please don't report it when one of our members gives you a greeting you may find shocking. We do our best not to censor content here and playing swearword police is not in our job descriptions. Sailing Anarchy is more like a bar than a classroom, so handle it like you would meeting someone a little coarse - don't look for the teacher. Thanks.


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  1. "I don't know Hugh Welbourn personally," said Dalton. "But I have seen a few designs he did in the '80s, which were basically pigs." I think Welbourn got what he deserved, considering he is the one with the big mouth. Who knows how he even got an feature in the NZ herald as he in certainly not a well known designer here, let alone "Legendary". "Legendary British yacht designer Hugh Welbourn has strongly criticised Team New Zealand over their America's Cup spill, describing it as "careless".
  2. I wouldn't call not having a HF penny pinching. A modern Icom + tuner + backstay or aerial + modem = the cost of 2-3 satellite phones these days, and then if the boat loses power its not going to work. Satellite phones are portable, can be put in a waterproof case and contain their own battery. Most long distance cruisers have a healthy respect for mother nature and won't risk bad weather to keep a schedule.
  3. If you look at it this way, most of the primary load in a sail is running from the clew to the head. In a cross cut configuration this is taken care of by the fill fibers. The only place where you get a lot of off angle load is diagonally out of the clew. That is the reason why you see race dacron mains with a cross-cut body and radial clew. In a cross-cut sail the luff loads are on the bias of the fabric, this allows for more tuning ability via the cunningham. Radial or Cross-cut, its still dacron and its still going to stretch, I think the radial dacron has some applications, but the marketing has over hyped it.
  4. I'm sure there are some that specify cross-cut, but I haven't come across any so far.
  5. http://www.contendersailcloth.com/news/44 New Zealands biggest and most competitive keelboat class. North, Doyle all use cross cut body with radial clew. Seen a main on one of these made in Sri-Lanka from Radian and it was far more distorted at a age when the contender cloth would still be going strong. Have a look at the etchells class, most highly competitive one designs are cross cut dacron. Dimensions HTP dacron is another popular choice.
  6. You have to consider that most of the sail fabric and hardware is produced in Europe and USA so it has to be shipped to Asia or Africa and then the completed sail has to be air freighted back again. So the 10-15% is not to far off the mark.
  7. +10,000 It's the customer's choice how to spend his dollars. Sounds like your local sailmaker has adapted so they can cater to the carriage trade as well as the middle of the market. Kudos to them On the sails I've had them make the price difference to build locally has been a lot less than 40%. It might vary by type and size. Isn't the other reason big lofts went offshore was, in part, the obvious benefit of optimizing/centralizing the big, expensive equipment? That is only true in the case of string sails/specialized laminated sails etc. Regular sails don't require to much "big expensive equipment". They are labor intensive so it is mostly the low labor costs and cheaper overheads.
  8. Done about 1000 hours on our 1986 2003 Volvo with unknown hours before that. The holes where the water enters the exhaust elbow need to be scrapped out every couple of years. One injector sleeve failed which is apparently common. Water pump is leaking so probably have to buy the rebuild kit. Replaced all the engine mounts and the rubbers in the flexible coupling, rubber is apparently very expensive in Sweden! The lift fuel pump broke (only discovered when bleeding it as was gravity feeding). Got the replacement which is different and needed a new pipe which they didn't have so had to source banjo fittings and use a rubber hose. Thats all I can think of at the moment!
  9. Okay fair call, maybe they taught some of the staff all the steps but it is definitely not 240 skilled Sailmakers as per your first statement. And there must have been 20 of them in the office!
  10. Seriously? It's obvious you have never set foot inside the Hyde Loft in the Philippines. There are indeed sailmakers at the Hyde Loft who can recut a sail and do quality repairs. And other wonderful and highly skilled technical workers who operate sophisticated CAD-CAM software and machinery, do inventory managment, procurment, global shipping and all the other tasks needed to operate a global business. Sorry, but it sounds to me like you're spewing political propaganda. Maybe racist propaganda too. The hidden message is this: Filipinos/Asian worker couldn't possibly be as talented, as skilled and as smart as the non-asian sailmakers in non-Asian countries who work in one-man lofts. I find those comments to be inexcusably disrespectful towards the 250 talented and skilled Filipinos who have been working at the Hyde loft for 10 or 15 years. They're not lacking lazy or uneducated or unambitious, you know. Actually I have been to the Hyde factory in the Philippines as well as several other large scale sail production factories I'm not saying a Filipino work is in anyway inferior to a worker from a western country The workers at big sail production factories are trained single tasks in a factory environment, they do not do a sailmaking apprenticeship and are not trade qualified sailmakers or sailors. You should read the following definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailmaker
  11. Quote: Hyde Sails has been in business for 50 years and is one of the world's largest production lofts. Our designer team is world class and our production facilities are world class as well. We have 240 full time skilled sailmakers at our production loft in Cebu, and a team of managers with decades of experience as sailmakers. The workers at these big factories in Asia are "factory workers who manufacture sails" and not skilled sailmakers. The process is broken down and the worker is taught a small part of a big process. In most cases these places aren't capable of re-cutting a sail or doing quality repair as they have never been taught that. No actual sailmaker would work for $12 a day
  12. For downwind only the lighter the boat is the faster it will be. The heavier boat might keep up in sub planning conditions but once the breeze it up the lighter boat will plane away. This is presuming you can have the same amount of sail area, which you can downwind as all the bulb is doing is preventing a capsize. On a 26fter you can get a lot of RM from crew weight which is more effective than bulb weight and size dragging though the water. This boat would beat all of the boats you mention easily upwind and downwind http://www.shawyachtdesign.com/Sportsboats/Shaw-750/ Sure its a sportboat with racks but I still believe a light 28fter with less bulb weight and provision for crew hiking will keep up upwind with a heavy bulb boat and provided you can pack on enough sail area downwind (long bowsprit) will eat the other boat downwind and be much more fun boat to sail. The problem is the light boat will get killed on rating in most countries. IRC promotes heavier, tall rig boats with big bulbs and may have more influence than it deserves.
  13. Head down to Changi sailing club, that seems to be the only regular club racing in SG. Very friendly and social racing. Sure its like sailing on a lake with ship traffic! But that is all part of the game. Talk to Edwin the club manager, very nice guy.
  14. I'm sorry but in your link I can see one big canter and no sportboats, unless you call a Ker 40 a sportboat. It did exceptionally well in that race compared to the races it has entered in since then, must be the Mr Clean factor. Looking at the overall results in racetrack in my opinion if I was looking to spend big bucks buying a new 35fter to race in the NZ fleet(no measurement rules), the J-111 isn't much of a step up in performance for the extra outlay. It is competeing against similar size boats from the 80's/90's, and is below boats like the Ross 10.66 higher ground which was built in 1989. If you really want a step up in peformance I suggest you look at the new Elliott 35SS which is sailing about 15% faster than the J-111 http://www.salthouseboats.com/production-boat-elliott35ss.html
  15. The D6 design is aimed to balance high performance with ease of sailing. The size, construction, layout, rig and keel are all sized to give exciting sportboat performance in a package that doesn't require the entire crew to have a lot of experience sailing high performance yachts. I want to be able to take my friends out yacht racing. The base design will carry a reasonably heavy keel bulb that will provide stability exactly when needed; when it's windy and things are starting to get a little bit out-of-control. This keel configuration will also work well for anyone who sails solo or double-handed. That said, the D6 design has been designed to accommodate higher performance, and can be easily "turboed" with a few modifications: Lighter weight bulb Longer sprit Large spinnaker My boat will have the long sprit and big spinnaker, and retain the heavier bulb for Hawaii's strong breezes. The winches are the smallest available and are there primarily to hold the spinnaker sheet in big breeze so the trimmer gets some relief. They will also serve to adjust the forestay and halyards, and just about any other line on the boat. You don't have to have a bigger spinnaker with a longer sprit, you can have the same size spinnaker and make jibing easier and gain speed with the same size spinnaker. I guess we have the benefit of sportboat evolution in NZ, every boats different in search of speed, and get modified on a yearly basis which the performance based handicaps here promote. The disadvantage is no one design racing.