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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

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  1. Team NYYC

    ......such as TP52s used only for the participation in and preparation for their class or any other official regattas That doesn't read to me like an 'exemption' for TP52s - it's just there as an example. The same exemption applies to any class over 12m with a set program as long as that is all you use the boat for . 20m+ tri inshore series would probably make the most sense
  2. The umpires were too slow in AC35 to set reasonable distance limits at which a boat had to react or be penalised. They initially had to be a second or 2 from catastrophe before the umpires would dish out a penalty - sanity reigned in the end but so did the general confusion over what was going on. So it's good that this is already being considered and once some of these things are sailing and their capabilities are better understood hopefully a sane take on what is reasonable will be adopted.
  3. The mono is there, upwind starts, and and .... So a return to 'tradition' in some areas, development in others (so sorry, not binary - can you cope?) and in terms of a 'single class right through' and 'Defender vs Challengers before the Match', that you mention above - pretty much the same as the London plot - and you spun that bigly!
  4. AC36 Auckland NZ

    ^ all a bit self-serving. That's not to say that that groups commercial interests should not be considered in planning.... a lot of the public investment talk is justified via the returns through these companies after all. ...and the counter argument from the same article "They see it in black and white: it's either we have the extensions or we don't have the Cup. The way we see it, we want the public to pay as little as possible, which will be achieved by using existing infrastructure," he said. "Let's use land that we've already got - there's land down on Auckland's most prime real estate that is being used as junk yards, car parks, vacant lots and gravel yards." Busfield's statement that it was necessary to either lose chunks of Auckland's harbour or lose the Cup hosting rights was "very self-serving". Until the industry fronted up with the money, "they don't have a leg to stand on". So the normal back and forth over working harbour vs recreational and scenic asset - but under extra pressure due to time constraints, international attention to the process and outcome and the potential opportunity to access greater than normally available funding. Popcorn time!
  5. Welcome to several days ago sleeping beauty all that work ^for nothing...see
  6. AC36 - The Venue

    ^ Seems to hang on Bernasconi's analysis tools ATM. They worked ok last time - and the LR guys have had a look and apparently haven't spotted any glaring errors.... but maybe the devil is in the still missing detail? BAR likes it
  7. Team NZ

    Elise Beavis came fresh out of university in late 2015 to join one of the most successful sports teams in the world. Photo: Hamish Hooper ETNZ Meet Team NZ’s ‘golden girl’ Since winning the America’s Cup, Emirates Team New Zealand have had just two designers working full-time on conceiving a yacht, the like of which has never been sailed before. One of them is Dan Bernasconi, the team’s technical director, with a glittering 25-year design career that includes working for McLaren’s Formula One team. The other is 23-year-old Elise Beavis, a talented sailor in her youth, who came fresh out of university in late 2015 to join one of the most successful sports teams in the world. It doesn’t seem to bother Beavis that her boss was solving engineering problems well before she was born. “I’m quite a lot younger than other people here; a new grad who’s not an expert in any area. But they’ve trusted me to do my job right,” she says. “I know I’m pretty lucky to have been given this opportunity.” ....... And she’s already taking tips from “sailing” the AC75. “I am yet to successfully do a foiling gybe in my Waszp. So what I have learned from sailing the new America’s Cup boat on the simulator is the importance of keeping zero heel through a gybe,” she laughs. ....... “We need to decide what limitations to place on the design so it doesn’t become crazily, stupidly expensive, and to decide the areas where we want the development to be,” she says. “Then once the rule is out, then we can concentrate on what we did with the AC50 – make it as fast as possible. https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/11/21/62424/meet-team-nzs-golden-girl
  8. AC36 - The Venue

    America’s Cup base: Then there was one City officials want the Auckland Council to opt for a 'dispersed' option for the America's Cup village across several downtown wharves - and costing around a quarter of a billion dollars. https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/11/21/62532/americas-cup-base-then-there-was-one
  9. AC36 Auckland NZ

    America’s Cup base: Then there was one City officials want the Auckland Council to opt for a 'dispersed' option for the America's Cup village across several downtown wharves - and costing around a quarter of a billion dollars. https://www.newsroom.co.nz/2017/11/21/62532/americas-cup-base-then-there-was-one
  10. AC36 - The Venue

    Still all a bit conventional. Needs a bit more 'Chch post-earthquake' thinking. Does it have to be a permanent wharf or nothing? I mean if it's wanted and the money is available by all means build it. But if that's not gonna happen (or not gonna happen quickly enough), why not get the public out into that (water) space beyond Halsey wharf, using non-permanent structures/floating structures and keep the bases closer in, using the best of the available spaces already mentioned - depending on numbers and in order of entry?
  11. trickle down

    From FP... PUPZILLA Good to see cloth sails apparently working ok (c) http://dnaperformancesailing.com/our-boats/dna-tf10-foiling-trimaran/
  12. AC36 - The Venue

    time to combine these threads
  13. AC36 Auckland NZ

    Exclusive: America's Cup plans face rethink The Halsey wharf extension looks like a non-starter now - use Lot 18 instead.... with Goff video http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11945677 The America's Cup base row appears to be heading back to the drawing board after a series of meetings between the Government, Auckland Council and Team New Zealand. Economic Development Minister David Parker spent four hours visiting the proposed sites on the waterfront before holding two meetings yesterday with Auckland mayor Phil Goff and Team New Zealand boss Grant Dalton, among others. "I don't want to sound dictatorial but I am expecting to see some revised plans," said Parker, the minister responsible for the Cup. ....... "Team New Zealand provided us America's Cup plans face rethink with information regarding practicalities. They are at the point of finalising design of the regatta yachts and that has an effect on the practicality of various sites," Parker said. The parties' visions for the event - and the future of Auckland waterfront - differ greatly, with Goff favouring the cheaper $137 million option that disperses the bases across three city wharves, while Team New Zealand's preference is to centralise the bases on a 220m extension to Halsey Wharf covering 3ha of water space at a cost of $190m.