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  1. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    I received this email from Mike Beasely, skipper/owner of Hull 4 "Rattle N' Rum". Mike has been the most successful at extracting the performance from his boat, and he has verified all my expectations for this design: Compliments of the season to you all. I will keep this as brief and as simple as possible and will endeavor to explain more about how we sail Rattle and some comparisons against the boats we have sailed against. I just want you to know that I am not a salesman for this boat, only here to help on the technical aspect of the boat but these boats truly rock. They are so much fun and very quick! Upwind; Target boat speed upwind 6.30kts above 8kts TWS. A Farr 30 and C and C shoot for around 6.50kts. We can point much higher now that we have added in-haulers. The foils have no trouble handling the higher angles. We let the in-haulers off above 14kts TWS and drop to the transverse track but still hard against the coach roof. We Vang sheet and whale on the runners! Traveler at plus 1 all day in breeze and all the way up in the light. Generally upwind when we race against larger boats we sail smart upwind keeping our lanes and then pounce on them downwind. In medium breeze I have one person behind me (generally one of the girls that sails with us) taking on the new runner through a tack. You definitely don't want any more weight further aft as you start to have turbulent water hanging around the transom. Always have a clean exit of water! I trim my own Main so I am the only one with legs in which should be the case all the time. As for weight, we sail with 4 when it's less than 8kts, 5 people, 8-14kts, 6 people for anything above that. To be honest 5 average men (400-450kgs) would be a pretty good number for most conditions unless it's nuking. Downwind speeds are definitely compromised if you are overweight. Reaching; The boat has no speed limitations when you crack sheets. I am completely blown away by how fast Rattle will go when you crack sheets in any breeze. During the recent Storm Trysail event distance race at the top mark after an hour of beating the C and C's had put 4 mins on us and then on the tight two sail reach we pulled away from them. We have just purchased a FR0 to cover that gap from 70-120TWA for reaching legs. The water on the Bay is relatively flat so we don't get to go surfing much. The last day of KW last year it was blowing 38kts and we came in the channel sitting on 20kts with just a Main up! Downwind; Sail hot like a skiff! Put the bow up and send it, don't waffle around trying to VMG. Weight AFT quickly in breeze and get the chine and keel working for you. Clean up somewhere on the run but you do 12-14kts with your eyes shut but the extra speed comes easily when you wick it up. We passed all but one of the C and C's in the distance race downwind in the STC event. In flat water and 20-22kts TWS we were sitting on 16-17kts. Any wave action 20kts is easily achievable. Charleston was flat water and more breeze and I think we hit 18 or 19kts. In the last Wednesday night race we went around the top mark 20 secs behind a Tripp 33 and 2 miles later we finished 4:51 ahead of them and 40 seconds faster around the track than the World Champion Farr 30, Ramrod. In KW we were either ahead or just behind the Farr 280's and then blew them out of the water going downwind. They would beat us around the track of we had an average beat but we would smoke them by sailing hotter angles downwind. Sails; Jib, max it out. Main; I swear by the Square Top. We just bought a new Main that is 25% of E and I love it. The speed difference over the pin head is knots faster downwind, not tenths of a knot. Spinnaker; A2; 85m2 is too big, need higher clew boxes and maybe closer to 80m2. Gybing is painful, need to be able to skiff gybe like a Melges 24 which we can't do at present. Huge gains to be made in this area! A1; Sailmakers call. Overall, we are still learning but have a learnt a shit load over the past year. Not sure how you can improve IRC ratings but obviously a head can be installed in the owners cabin (down the hall way on the left) and any other items that may gain you a few seconds but keeping the boat light is absolutely paramount. I pulled all the wind instruments and crap out of the rig and only race with a Velocitek now although a simple B and G (speed/depth/temp) maybe advantageous for where you race. As I mentioned earlier I love the boat and sail with guys that race on the TP52 circuit (Greg Gendell) and on the C and C 30s (Will Van Cleef, Joe Gibson and Jason Currie) and they also love the boat and are very impressed by its capabilities.
  2. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    The owner's of the current boats appear to prefer the ability to configure their boats to suit their local sailing conditions and crew abilities; and in regattas where the boats race together, the ORC rule handicaps the boats in their different configurations very effectively. Without the constraints of a strict class rule, the owner's have been at liberty to explore various sail sizes, which has allowed a clearer path towards optimizing the boats than if they had been constrained by the GP 26 Class Rule. The result of this experimentation has delivered a faster boat; that's a good thing. Spinnaker development has been very beneficial, and I think we have found the "sweet spot" in these sail sizes. I did get a message from a sailor aboard a C&C 30 at the STC regatta voicing a similar concern about the boat's identity: ". . . the 26 came out of that weekend looking good and seeming pretty hard to beat in today's sportboat market. But the boat seems to have a bit of an identity crisis. Is it a one design or is it a box rule? Square top mains vs. pin top mains? Lift keel vs. fixed keel? I think the C&C 30 owner might have bought a 26 after the STC regatta if the answers to these questions were a bit clearer." My opinion: It would be great for the owner's of the boats, and potential new owner's to start communicating about the probable class that will develop. I am happy to act as the conduit for this communication, although I believe it is very important that the class is lead by an owner's association. My intention, and to my knowledge, most of the boats would be able to compete as a "GP 26" with GP 26 Class Rule sails. We have one boat with an inboard diesel that makes the boat too heavy, and some added carbon in the hull/deck laminate; it would not qualify to race as a "GP 26" (these alterations were made per the owner's request). The boat definitely uses the power available in a square top mainsail very effectively, and I have always promoted allowing both mainsails aboard the boat. A "race" square top and "pin top" mainsail that would be used for beer can racing, practicing and could be used for class racing above 23 TWS". The same adjusters work for gybing and single topmast backstays, and the only changes to get to a single topmast is plugging in a flicker and shifting the backstay onto the crane. The GP 26 Class Rules have some "issues" that will not work for a proper one design class, and I set up the foundation for the Donovan Design GP26 Class Rule, that will address these boats built to this design, and give the class tighter constraints on rig, keel and sail configurations. Note that the lift and fixed keels use the same fin and frame; the first 4 boats had slightly different fins/keel frames. The differences are very slight and have no affect on the boats performance.
  3. 20+ Footer - Building in Hawaii

    I just retrieved the boat from my friends backyard in California and moved it up to my current "home" in Washington State. After a couple days of cleaning the boat shined up pretty nice, and I have installed the majority of the deck hardware. My "compass mount / cleat cover" in the cockpit is going to get a make-over so it fits better in the cockpit and solves an interference issue with the beer holders and cam cleats inside. Mast is inside the GP26 mast mold stowed on deck in the photo. Have a rudder to build and keel. This little boat is more powered up than the GP26 and should be incredibly fun to sail with all the good manners of the GP26; upwind speed/stability/great control downwind
  4. 20+ Footer - Building in Hawaii

    Buckets are the way to go; the only moving part is the handle
  5. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    thanks Clean - skipped all but the last party. Was there for about an hour talking to the owner's and some new potential owners.Catch you next time.
  6. 20+ Footer - Building in Hawaii

    If I was ever in the same state as the boat, it'd probably get done sooner!
  7. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Not sure
  8. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Five GP 26s at CRW
  9. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Mikes team on Rattle and Rum were the most proficient and would always leg out on the fleet; the rest of us were sailing with new or relatively new crew or just really old crew. Average age on our boat was 54 (we had one 35 yr old that lowered that from 58). Sprint 6 wins the old contest with the 80 year old owner sailing aboard on Sunday. The racing with the other four boats was quite close and the owners and crew were all working on determinimg the next regatta to focus on for the fleet. We have nine boats on the east coast now; the Miami boat has sold and is headed to Ontario. Hope to get enough interest in getting a few boats to travel to the lakes.
  10. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Al the boats sailed with six. Seems to work well in anything above 14 TWS.
  11. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Some nice photos from Tim Wilkes on CRW website
  12. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Some nice photos from Tim Wilkes on CRW website
  13. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    Great racing in Charleston last weekend. We had our first OD start with five GP 26s on the line. Racing in 15 to 25 knots on the inshore circles, the boats completed the 5.5 mile courses in approx 40 mins. Downwind legs took about 8 mins. Essentially no breakage on any of the boats aside for minor furler issue on Sprint 6 - this was there first race after only two days of tuning in Detroit last fall. The square top mains are definitely the perferred setup and the boats are powerful enough to carry a full square top mainsail with small headsail in winds speeds exceeding 25 knots.
  14. 20+ Footer - Building in Hawaii

    interesting timing; we have some exciting news coming. Plans developing to supply kit and boats in various stages of completion
  15. Donovan GP26 starts production in Turkey

    It does seem the J80 is winning very easily in this rule. And it can't be much fun finishing last over the line in every race. My GP 26s are showing up with brand new teams, ratings that were not optimized at all for ORC and limited sail inventories. Mike is having a great time collecting his fair share of guns at the finish line; quite an achievement after sailing the boat less than a week. Rattle n Rum has an A2 that's not great, and we've been trying to find a replacement for that sail all week. Definitely affecting his performance in the moderate wind races. Long story short; there's a lot of performance yet to come for the GP 26s. Very gratifying to see how well they go against the 28 footers in the fleet 😄