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      Abbreviated rules   07/28/2017

      Underdawg did an excellent job of explaining the rules.  Here's the simplified version: Don't insinuate Pedo.  Warning and or timeout for a first offense.  PermaFlick for any subsequent offenses Don't out members.  See above for penalties.  Caveat:  if you have ever used your own real name or personal information here on the forums since, like, ever - it doesn't count and you are fair game. If you see spam posts, report it to the mods.  We do not hang out in every thread 24/7 If you see any of the above, report it to the mods by hitting the Report button in the offending post.   We do not take action for foul language, off-subject content, or abusive behavior unless it escalates to persistent stalking.  There may be times that we might warn someone or flick someone for something particularly egregious.  There is no standard, we will know it when we see it.  If you continually report things that do not fall into rules #1 or 2 above, you may very well get a timeout yourself for annoying the Mods with repeated whining.  Use your best judgement. Warnings, timeouts, suspensions and flicks are arbitrary and capricious.  Deal with it.  Welcome to anarchy.   If you are a newbie, there are unwritten rules to adhere to.  They will be explained to you soon enough.  


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  1. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Brunel are exactly where they should be in the fleet, if not slightly ahead. They have an experienced team, but with very little time together. They have a settled and experienced management team, but very little time on the boat in the build up period. The teams with more time on the boat are ahead of them, except for Akzo who are dysfunctional due to crew and management changes. If anythng Vestas should be further ahead of Brunel, in my opinion. The truth is that every minor mistake is punished by the lead teams, and getting those lost miles back is bloody difficult.
  2. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Actually the most vocal criticism came from outside of the Magenta Project from the likes of Shirley Robertson. The Magenta Project queried if it was the right thing to show, whereas Shirley was loud in saying that it was a disgrace. The only issue I had with it was that Annamieke looked uncomfortable, but then Witty took the focus off her. I found it interesting that when another friend of mine complained about the video someone responded querying if it was acceptable for Dee to joke about the boys getting a 'back, sack and crack'...nobody answered that one. In the UK there has been lots of news, and a few resignations, over inappropriate behaviour; maybe that is feeding the heightened awareness of what is deemed harassment (sexual or otherwise).
  3. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Will you lot stop quoting him...please. I have him on ignore, and then you lot shove his ill informed, dumb as fuck, posts under my nose.
  4. Vor 2017-2018 New CEO

    I think the method of the two announcements pretty much says it all. Mark T goes on the live show to say thank you and goodbye. Atlant is announced with a very dry press release. Richard Brissius is considered a safe pair of hands by VOR, so may not appeal here. More to the point the Swedish way of thinking, means that bold decisions will not be made quickly, consensus will need to be reached. I am thankful for Mark's influence on the comms strategy, even if I do not agree with everything he was trying to achieve.
  5. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    One of the issues with so much stuff coming off is finding it. The text seems to go to the VOR Blog, but cannot be shared easily. That's why TTTOP put the text up as a picture. Annoying really.
  6. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    What the fuck does that have to do with a comment about fanboys?
  7. VOR 2019-2020

    This is one of the proposals, not the chosen one. No decision has been made yet.
  8. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    The draft of the keel was 4.7m last time, pretty sure it is the same this time. Where did you hear it had been extended (other than in these forums)?
  9. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Unfortunately it looks like there is more pressure for the boats in the South, so not sure that the 'stealth' is going to hide anything of use to the fleet to the East of TTTOP. Might put the shits up Scally for a bit.
  10. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Look through the fleet and you will see more characters shining through from the ex SCA crew. That team had their personalities removed by the coaching and management, nothing to do with what was reported. Liz seems to be genuinely enjoying working with this team. Great top see it coming through on the raw.
  11. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    She had a hip operation before starting with Mapfre (not replacement but that was an option) and was saying that the hip issues were actually the cause of the back problems. Hopefully she is good for a long time to come. Ref written stuff - Sam Greenfield wrote a couple of excellent pieces on TTTOP early on.
  12. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    Phil Harmer (Wendy) has a back issue, Damien was always contracted to do a couple of legs (and as part of the 11th Hour deal). Chuny is essentially in for Wendy until further notice.
  13. VOR Leg 2 Lisbon to Cape Town

    As I understand it the teams can roll data onto the next leg for wx info. So if they do no use the full allowance on one leg, they can top up the next. Not sure if that is in the SIs or just a discussion between teams and OA.
  14. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    Dee's brief debrief of the leg. https://www.facebook.com/DCaffari/posts/1954934517882192
  15. VOR Leg 1 Alicante to Lisbon

    That is phenomenal work, thank you for sharing.